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for the masses headlined july 8 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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yeah today's wednesday september 9 2020

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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changer network and kgra the planets

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i am your host jimmy church how are you

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doing tonight is night three

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of ufo week here on

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i'm typing and tweeting at the same time

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that's right if you want to see what i'm

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follow me on twitter

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oh wait a minute i misspelled that oh a

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there we go just got that out showing

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off my t-shirt that i'm wearing tonight

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can you see it

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the extra terrestrial highway t-shirt

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from nevada

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area 51 that's right the black mailbox

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wearing that tonight

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and uh it's going to be a great show

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tonight kevin estrella

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is here from pyramids on mars

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kevin estrella the band pyramids on mars

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kevin is a guitar player

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and a contactee an experiencer and we

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it's always 9 9 20 20.

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nine nine 20 equals 20 20.

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hashtag f2b

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tomorrow night is fader night thursday

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oh you know what i'll save this for

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all right so that is tonight kevin

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that uh was it monday did we do it

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today's wednesday was it yesterday

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monday monday we launched

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episode three of the h factor i want you

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to go over to our new youtube channel

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go and write that that just go and and

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today captain kirk

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captain bleepin kirk got in william

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who played captain james t kirk

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all right big news today

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big big news probably the biggest news

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of 2020

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and if you don't think 2020 has been the

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craziest big news

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year ever you know and most of it kind

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of dark well you needed to hear

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this this is the biggest news of 2020.

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this is what is going to save 2020

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who directed arrival and blade runner

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of the same name dune

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but the new dune cast now check this out

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includes zendaya you know the disney

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girl singer timothy chalamet

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is in this josh brolin

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is in the new dune dave bautista who

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skarsgard and javier bardem

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going to be incredible and if you

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the trailer go and check it out but i'm

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three hours long

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i'm gonna want my money back the big

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the release date is now official

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december 18 2020

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dune is going to save our

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year yeah ireland's

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data protection commission in august

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ordered facebook to stop sending data

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about its european union users to the

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united states

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the preliminary order could have a

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massive ramification on facebook's

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operations in the united in the

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united kingdom in the european union

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the uk ain't going to be part of that do

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you think a brexit's actually going to

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happen

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do you think it's actually i i i

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remember

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even after the vote passed and

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everything went topsy turvy over that's

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like nah it ain't gonna happen

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it just ain't gonna happen anyway the

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giant

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fails to comply with the decree

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back in july the european court of

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justice

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issued new restriction for companies

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that store data

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of eu residents on american servers

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the eu's top court said that the data

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transfers to the u.s could violate the

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privacy of europeans and

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subject their information to

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us surveillance

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that's right in may 2018 the eu

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implemented the general data protection

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regulation or the gdpr

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which requires businesses to protect

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personal data big tech companies have

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been forced to rework their user privacy

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policies since the regulation was

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introduced

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in july 2019 here in the united

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states the ftc the federal trade

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commission

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fined facebook 5 billion

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dollars due to data privacy violations

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absolutely insane and this is the thing

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the internet goes without saying that's

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worldwide

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you have a website in the united states

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it's viewed in the european union

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so that's it and and if you have one

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customer

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one listener one thing that's clicking

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on uh

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your website over in the european union

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you better have updated your privacy

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uh notifications and what uh

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in your terms uh your terms of service

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all of that had to be updated we did it

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here on fade to black

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but you had to comply or you were

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getting fines or you were getting

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blocked

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in the eu your website so think about

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that

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it's absolutely nuts now i got some sad

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news

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and uh i reported on this a couple of

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months ago when this went down

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originally but forrest fenn

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whose 10-year treasure hunt inspired

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thousands of people to

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explore out west has died

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he was 90 years old fenn died of an

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apparent of apparent natural causes at

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his home in new mexico

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fenn was an art and antiquities

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collector in southwestern uh raconteur

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best known for

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hiding a treasure chest somewhere in the

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rocky mountains

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he published cryptic clues 10 years ago

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in his autobiography

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the thrill of the chase and set off a

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treasure-hunting phenomenon

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skeptics had believed that his treasure

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hunt was

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a hoax until this past june

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when it was announced an anonymous

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adventurer had finally found the bounty

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fenn shared photos to prove the treasure

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was real all along

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that's right a silver chest teamed with

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gold jewelry and other artifacts

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believed to total over one million

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dollars

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man well he lived to see it though

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right 90 years old life well lived right

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there

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday too

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adam sandler that's right

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adam sandler today 54

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years old michael buble

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today is just 45.

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hugh grant today is 60. i thought he was

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about 70.

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he's only 60. it's got to be a typo

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and the rhythmics dave stewart today

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is 68 years old our dead guy's birthday

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today is it seems like i do this every

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year don't i

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otis reading 1941 to 1967

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died at the young age of 26 years old

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otis is considered one of the greatest

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singers in the history of popular music

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he died in a plane crash in route to

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madison wisconsin on sunday december 10

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1960 he was to play at the factory

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nightclub near the university of

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wisconsin that evening

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unbelievable happy birthday otis writing

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on this day in history otd

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1956 it

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went down the king of rock and roll

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teams up with the king of tv

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as elvis presley appears on the edge

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television

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show for the first time

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with 60 million viewers or 82.6

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of tv viewers at the time tuning in

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everybody in the united states

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watch this broadcast the appearance was

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the most

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watched tv broadcast of all of the 1950s

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fader fact oh by the way ed sullivan

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paid elvis back then

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right 1956. 50 grand

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man that's 50 grand somebody do the

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conversion of that

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right now pop it up in twitter what is

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50 grand

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somebody when someone says there's no

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difference in coffee

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oh god oh

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man yeah go to go to uh

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go to carl's jr go to a

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hardy's get coffee

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tell me there isn't a difference in

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coffee

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dunkin donuts has stepped up their game

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though for sure

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all right fader fact all right here you

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go

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unbelievable

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but it's a fact and it's vetted there

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is a valley in antarctica

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called the dry valleys

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which scientists consider to be the

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closest of any terrestrial environment

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to mars and there

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it hasn't received any rain

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in almost 2 million

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years and that

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378.68

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in 2020 that is some dash

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thank you for that dan james we got that

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update in

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twitter from australia

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that's what i'm talking about all right

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big teddy bear i know right

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[Laughter]

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do you remember when he was uh he's an

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mma fighter

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loved him then too as well that's right

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he's funny guardians of the galaxy he's

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funny and everything

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that new spy movie that came out what's

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it called my spy

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my my my little spy i can't remember

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what it's called it's pretty good though

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it's pretty good movie

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pretty good movie all right let me hit

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rivermooncoffee.com yeah

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it's the best does this making noise

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again

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yeah ooh it is

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here that's the springs see

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ah no spring action

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ah so i need

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i need i thought this was fixing it

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but that's no that is not i need some

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i need some tape i'm gonna fix it right

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now

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i got me hold up hold on watch this this

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is how you fix something in the studio

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really quick okay so you grab this

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razor blade cut it

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now let's see what happens

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huh

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it's better it's not perfect though

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okay all right all right all right all

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right but it's better

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it's better this is fade to black river

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mooncoffee.com fade to black blend i

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am your host jimmy church click on the

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banner it's over at jimmychurchradio.com

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now

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tonight kevin estrella is here and

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when i started this show uh back in the

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beginning

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i the vision that i had the vision

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was that man i need to be able to

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to just talk talk about my favorite

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things i just want to just let my mind

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go

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i don't care if it's led zeppelin van

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halen ufos

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roswell travis walton don't care

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bob lazar right don't care abductions

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pyramids lost history mars secret space

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program whatever

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right and guitars and be able to

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talk about food and things just be

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myself right

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and and that would that is what the show

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has been from the

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very beginning there

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there is a strange connection

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if you go and look at and this is

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this is bizarre to me because it's true

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if you go and you look up just about

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any popular artist and specifically i

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can bring up guitar players

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they will have had an album cover

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with a ufo on it they will have had a an

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album cover with a pyramid with the with

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giza

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on it they will have you know a ghost

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they will have something supernatural

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paranormal something conspiracy related

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on one of one of their album covers

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then you dig deeper and then you find

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some songs and then there are

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the other artists out there that have

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really

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taken it to the extreme where they don't

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hide what they're dealing with

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and if you go to like the covers of the

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boston albums think about that earth

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wind and fire think about that

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parliament funkadelic think about that

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the carpenters carpenters wei e.t

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right well then there's artists

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like steve vai and his album

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alien love secrets that's right

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alien love secrets check out that album

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check out the

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the album cover and and steve's talk

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about and you look you look at his

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guitars with the pyramids on the neck

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and

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everything

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dude's an alien right that's steve and

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then you have somebody like joe satriani

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right surfing with the alien it might be

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his biggest hit

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is called surfing with the alien

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and then you go and just start to

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examine

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and go and look uh it doesn't matter if

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it's black sabbath

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or if it's van halen you know you can go

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and start to take a look at these bands

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and and and look at some of the songs

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that they have done or their album

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covers

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and you are going to see all of it

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and it has had a big influence on me

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it has and then we have

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an artist like kevin estrella who

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had an experience we're going to be

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talking about that tonight uh

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contact and his his band his project

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is called pyramids on mars and

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he has gone fully public now

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so not only with pyramids on mars but

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he's got pyramids on mars

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ufo radio he's a radio host he he writes

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the music

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and he's going out and and speaking and

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doing interviews

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uh kevin reached out to me many years

578
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,840
ago and and i've been listening to his

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music ever since

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00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,159
and this is the first opportunity that

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we've been able to have him on the show

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but i'm really looking forward to this

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because kevin and i are a lot alike i

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don't play as good as he does

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00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:05,360
but the the reasons for us being here

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are the same and if you look at

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musicians

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00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,039
and you think about it i don't care who

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you go to it could be johnny cash

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doesn't matter elvis it doesn't matter

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00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:21,279
it just doesn't matter just go and look

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00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,640
us musicians and artists and creative

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people

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are not afraid of talking about these

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things

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and expressing ourselves that's why i'm

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really looking forward to this show

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tonight

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and alien sex fiend

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[Laughter]

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[Music]

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that's pretty good pendleton that's

603
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:44,640
pretty good

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00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,679
uh let's see jimmy needs a good mechanic

605
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better help him before he hurts himself

606
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oh what with me uh

607
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yeah yeah i'm with you on that that was

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kind of dangerous

609
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um i do keep this in the studio

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you know right next to me you never know

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right when you're gonna need

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something like that like right now and

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see now see it's nice and quiet

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now it's not making that noise at least

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not as bad

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let's take our break right here this is

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fade to black i'm murals jimmy church

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tonight

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is night three of our ufo week here on

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fade to black tonight's guest kevin

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estrella pyramids on mars tomorrow night

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fader night open lines all night long

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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of ufo week here on fade to black

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tonight kevin estrella of pyramids on

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mars is with us

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tomorrow night's another fader night

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open lines

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all night long but tonight it's kevin

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estrella

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guitarist for pyramids on mars we're

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gonna have a full evening of ufos

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contact music

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00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:23,119
and guitars and for me it is the perfect

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night here on fade to black

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kevin has been welcomed deep into the

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ufo community after having his own

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00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:31,119
first-hand encounter with something out

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00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,480
of this world

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00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:34,960
he is the guitarist and the composer of

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00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,599
the interm

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00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:38,639
uh the uh the international yes yes

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00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,119
international and instrumental rock band

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00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,639
pyramids on mars

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00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:45,200
and he has always had a passion for ufos

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00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,560
and extraterrestrials

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00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,320
he spent over 20 years researching to

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00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,000
understand why they

738
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,720
are here kevin wanted to combine his

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00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,240
passion of music with raising

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00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,240
consciousness and awareness of the ufo

741
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,240
and extraterrestrial presence

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00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,440
he has felt it was always his purpose in

743
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,359
life we're going to talk about what

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00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:05,359
happened back in 2014

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00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,400
in just a minute and also i want to

746
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:09,920
mention that kevin has been a feature

747
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,119
guest on over 50 ufo talk radio shows

748
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,920
and is the host of pyramids on mars ufo

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00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:16,480
radio

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00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:20,960
his websites pyramids

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00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,400
on mars and his guitar lessons and of

752
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:26,720
course the radio show on artist first

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00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,720
the links are over at

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00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,200
jimmychurchradio.com i would like to

755
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:30,560
welcome for the first time to fade to

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black

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00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,560
kevin estrella kevin welcome

758
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:36,800
how you doing jimmy i am so glad to be

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00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:37,680
here

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00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,960
really glad how glad are you are you

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00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,160
glad enough

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00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:45,200
to take the uh first-time guest

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00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,030
sure you've been waiting for it here we

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go

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00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,680
kevin it's just you and i sitting on my

766
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:55,680
couch having a conversation as friends

767
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,240
and

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00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,240
where the conversation starts it starts

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00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,839
where it ends it ends but we're gonna

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00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:00,960
end his friends

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00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:04,400
there you go see love it yeah yeah

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00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:07,760
love it you know i know

773
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:10,480
that uh every time i have a first time

774
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,520
guest on

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00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,880
they have listened to the show in the

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00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,400
past and they've heard the first time

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00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,000
guest disclaimer

778
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:19,200
and uh nearly every time they will ask

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00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,599
me

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00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,119
uh you know during the sound check or

781
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:23,119
during the hey do i get the first time

782
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,880
guest disclaimer yes you do all right

783
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:28,880
it's just become this thing it's become

784
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:29,920
this thing

785
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:32,960
welcome welcome to the show and

786
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:36,160
uh i love i love everything that we're

787
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,520
going to be talking about tonight

788
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,839
and it's just a you know a free-form

789
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:41,280
conversation

790
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:44,640
but uh one of the things that

791
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,160
i i definitely want to get into first

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00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,599
is um ingva malmsteen

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00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,599
and there's a reason for that yeah okay

794
00:36:58,630 --> 00:36:55,280
i know you're surprised

795
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:58,640
we'll get to ufos in just a second um

796
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:02,000
i know where i was

797
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:05,680
the first time i heard the steeler

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00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:08,880
record right right

799
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:12,880
and uh i was back in indianapolis

800
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:15,599
and i had read you know mike varney's

801
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:16,320
column

802
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:19,280
in uh in guitar player magazine right

803
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,800
and what was it called up and coming

804
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,800
artists or new artists or new faces or

805
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,920
whatever it was

806
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,839
and and there's ying van he's like 18

807
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,040
years old uh

808
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,359
i think he was still in sweden and i

809
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,640
thought okay all right

810
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,320
so i remember reading about him and then

811
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,800
i heard their first stealer record

812
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,960
and i nearly wanted to quit playing

813
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:38,640
guitar at that point it was just like

814
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,359
it's just not

815
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,079
not even worth it uh yeah do you

816
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:44,560
remember the first time you heard ingva

817
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,280
oh god yeah yeah i was it was a buddy of

818
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:49,040
mine um um that we were

819
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:50,800
um he was a guitar player and i was over

820
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:53,520
at his place and he pulled out um

821
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,280
on vinyl marching out yes and he put on

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00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,839
i'll see the light tonight and i was

823
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:00,960
just

824
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:04,079
floored i could not believe i never

825
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,280
heard anybody play

826
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:07,920
so fast and what he was playing was just

827
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,079
absolutely phenomenal

828
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,920
and you know even to this day i can

829
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,359
still listen to that song

830
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,240
and it still is still he can't play as

831
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,480
good as he did it on that first album

832
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:20,800
like the stuff he was doing it was just

833
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:22,960
so freaking fast and

834
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,880
unbelievable and i it took me years to

835
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,400
learn some of those licks because

836
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,880
he's doing like vivaldi type of patterns

837
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:29,839
and stuff

838
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,320
and i was just blown away and and he was

839
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,480
a huge inspiration for me and

840
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:36,160
you know i ended up spending years

841
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:37,599
studying his music in fact

842
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,560
actually i spent two years just

843
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,839
listening to nothing but english

844
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,800
malmsteen

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00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,720
i mean i listened to no other music than

846
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,400
just invade for two years

847
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,960
studied him back and forth until i

848
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,680
learned

849
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,000
his style i really did i was that

850
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:53,839
dedicated i loved his music

851
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:57,200
yeah there those those first three

852
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,320
records

853
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:01,040
for me rising force marching out and

854
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:02,240
trilogy

855
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,960
uh fundamentally three different records

856
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:09,040
with three different sounds uh jeff

857
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,480
scott soto sang on

858
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:13,359
rising force and marching out and and

859
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:14,800
you're right i'll see the light tonight

860
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:15,200
oh

861
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,960
man right and and jeff scott soto

862
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:22,000
uh for me at that time was the perfect

863
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,119
compliment

864
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,760
for what danvey was doing that first

865
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,480
record

866
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:29,680
um i think he was trying

867
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,200
really hard uh to do his thing and i'm

868
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,960
talking about rising force and it's a

869
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,480
magical record right

870
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,960
he was trying really hard marching out

871
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:39,760
comes out

872
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:42,240
and i think he was getting into his

873
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:43,520
stride

874
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:46,320
and a different approach to songwriting

875
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,880
and then

876
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,720
when trilogy by the time he got to

877
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:50,000
trilogy

878
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:53,359
uh mark bowles comes in on vocals and

879
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:57,760
i thought that trilogy was probably

880
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,839
his best record of those three because

881
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,760
it was a combination of marching out and

882
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:03,440
rising force

883
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,880
you know and uh very melodic

884
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:09,040
and and mark bowles was a great great

885
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,400
singer at that time

886
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:12,960
so uh but yeah those first three records

887
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,599
man

888
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,760
uh mike did you get a chance to see him

889
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,079
live back in the day

890
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,640
no i that's one thing that i wish i

891
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:22,160
could have is to see him live i mean

892
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,960
i've watched him

893
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:25,040
hundreds of times on tv live you know

894
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:26,640
and you know i'd be playing video you

895
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,000
know playing video games and i'll stop

896
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:29,760
that and i'll throw on some alcatraz and

897
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,720
watch some old vault

898
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,960
you know you know in bay playing and

899
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:34,240
stuff but um

900
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,760
yeah it's always an inspiration to

901
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,280
listen because he's like a

902
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:39,520
he's like a tiger he really is when he

903
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:40,960
starts playing guitar it's like a tiger

904
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,560
being released out of a cage

905
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,880
at full at full volume at full throttle

906
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,319
and you can't stop him

907
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,640
he's a very passionate player yeah he is

908
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:49,760
no and and

909
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:53,520
he is uh uh

910
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,839
he's criticized a lot and i get that and

911
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:56,640
i understand

912
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:00,319
why and probably most of the criticism

913
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:03,760
is coming from critics that can't play

914
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,880
like him

915
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,640
so they're just exactly they're just a

916
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,160
little bit angry

917
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:11,680
but um but his playing

918
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:15,359
is uh is real and you just watch and you

919
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,640
just have to

920
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,800
just stop and appreciate the amount of

921
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:19,920
time

922
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,720
that he took in practicing and and and

923
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,280
breaking out with the style of his own

924
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,920
and created an entire new genre without

925
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:29,520
invade there would have been no shrapnel

926
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,400
records

927
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:31,920
you know there would have been no

928
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:34,480
shredding of uh

929
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:37,520
uh all those shredders that that

930
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,200
whole phenomenon that happened in the

931
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:41,839
80s i did happen to see him

932
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,040
i probably saw him three times um

933
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,160
and specifically though

934
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:50,880
uh i saw him at uh the universal

935
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,920
amphitheater

936
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,400
and that was a that was a great show but

937
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,440
i saw him

938
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:58,560
at the palladium and

939
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,680
uh you know who opened you know oh check

940
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,119
this out

941
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,560
talos billy sheehan oh yeah that was

942
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:09,599
cashed in oh it was talis and

943
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:12,800
and ingray malmsteen so anyway but

944
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,000
but that show i was in like

945
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,119
the second row with my friend rob uh

946
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:21,200
right there right there right front and

947
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,560
center 1985

948
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,640
you know marching out it was the

949
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,480
marching band tour and

950
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,079
so when you get to see him like that

951
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,160
that's it's just oh my god

952
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:36,480
yeah inspiration you never forget that

953
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:37,520
so uh

954
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,640
besides uh uh who were you

955
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,079
also uh listening to back then i was

956
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,240
uh well um the first band that really

957
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:48,079
turned uh turned my brother in on to

958
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:48,560
music

959
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,920
was was rush my cousin introduced us to

960
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:53,920
rush and we had to learn every single

961
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,480
rush to

962
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,880
a song that we could and so we did i

963
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,640
mean like um you know at that point

964
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,280
signals had just come out and um i got

965
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,040
this book called rush complete and had

966
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,440
all of their music so he learned every

967
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:07,520
rush song i possibly could

968
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,640
so it was really rushed for me and then

969
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,440
um when i when i was i was usually into

970
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,520
influenced by iron maiden too so we were

971
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:18,000
playing a lot of iron maid a lot of rush

972
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,160
but i really found myself it was grade

973
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,079
10 uh home room when

974
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:25,599
my my best friend had these two tapes

975
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,000
of joe satriani of you know surfing with

976
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,680
the alien and not of this earth and he

977
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,280
said hey check out this guitar player

978
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:33,440
jose [\h__\h] he's amazing

979
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,119
and i threw on the tape and i started

980
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,720
listening to surfing with the alien and

981
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,680
i never heard

982
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,760
anybody playing like that before you

983
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,160
know and how melodic joe was

984
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,560
and i took those tapes home and that was

985
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,560
the life-changing moment for me

986
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,160
um i knew that my life was going to

987
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,839
change that that that was the direction

988
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,520
of music that i wanted to go

989
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,839
and you know i became dedicated as a you

990
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,280
know i spent years

991
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:57,760
in high school i was a guy who was you

992
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:58,480
know on in

993
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,359
on recess checking out a guitar going

994
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:02,640
and playing you know practicing my

995
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,119
guitar

996
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,960
b i practiced and practice and practice

997
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:06,319
that's what i did

998
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,760
you know and my brother and i we end up

999
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,440
actually becoming we

1000
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:11,359
we were so well known at our high school

1001
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,040
for musicianship that

1002
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,200
years after we graduated like people

1003
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,640
were still talking about us because i

1004
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:18,000
found out from other people

1005
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:19,200
like you guys are still talking about

1006
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,319
the estrella brothers you guys are

1007
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,599
legends

1008
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,079
really really you know it's funny that

1009
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,040
you bring up satriani because

1010
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:30,240
i listened to uh you know surfing with

1011
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:30,960
the alien

1012
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:33,920
was uh played a lot on the radio here in

1013
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,319
los

1014
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,240
angeles around the world but it was

1015
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,240
certainly on the radio a lot here

1016
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:41,040
and i got a chance to go and see

1017
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:42,079
satriani

1018
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:45,359
at the roxy theater uh he played two

1019
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:45,920
shows

1020
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:50,640
was stew ham you know the classic

1021
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:53,839
classic band 1985 86

1022
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,119
and um and this is what i learned from

1023
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,040
satriani

1024
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:00,720
all right it's going to be the opposite

1025
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:03,440
of what you're going to expect me to say

1026
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:07,599
it taught me what i heard on the radio

1027
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:11,040
and what i was seeing live it when

1028
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:11,440
you're

1029
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:15,119
listening to it it sounds

1030
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:18,160
like you're like it's very technical

1031
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:21,200
then you see him play live and he's

1032
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,560
actually economical in his playing

1033
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,880
right the notes are the same what i'm

1034
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:28,880
saying is it's not a bunch of flashy

1035
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,680
flashy you know pyrotechnics on on the

1036
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,720
fretboard

1037
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:34,880
okay he's got an economical way of

1038
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,920
playing and it

1039
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,359
that's what i got i was like man you

1040
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,520
don't have to be invade

1041
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:42,720
to sound like you know somebody so

1042
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:43,760
magical

1043
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,040
and he was an economical player and

1044
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:49,200
i was able you know i didn't have to go

1045
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:50,400
and and

1046
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:54,079
you know skipping strings and arpeggios

1047
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:55,359
and doing this

1048
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:58,640
you know uh bach thing or vivaldi

1049
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:01,520
paganini i didn't have to do that i

1050
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:02,240
could be

1051
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:05,119
myself and i also got that out of steve

1052
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:05,760
vai too

1053
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,800
as well um in in his way of playing

1054
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:10,480
especially

1055
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,400
on the edam and smile record um where

1056
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:17,680
i i really felt that even though it's a

1057
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:20,800
technical challenge to play those songs

1058
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,640
if you think about it it's not ingva

1059
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:27,680
right it's not eddie van halen it's not

1060
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:31,040
and that's satriani and and steve i were

1061
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:32,000
two guys who

1062
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,920
actually taught each other how to play

1063
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,079
right and that's another twist of

1064
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:39,760
of this um but it's it's a it's a

1065
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:43,040
a way to find your own style and that's

1066
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,829
yeah yeah i you know i i learned a lot

1067
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:50,880
from you know from

1068
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,720
you know i grew up with satriani i grew

1069
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:54,960
up with vai i grew up with malmsteen

1070
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:57,920
and and i learned over the years um you

1071
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:58,880
know the important thing

1072
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:02,400
is to not um try and

1073
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,400
pretend to be these guys like you can

1074
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,640
take pieces of different guitar players

1075
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:07,839
but ultimately when you pick up your

1076
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,880
guitar you're going to sound like

1077
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:10,079
yourself

1078
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:13,200
and what's important is to is to is to

1079
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,880
discover yourself and discover your own

1080
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,680
style

1081
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,200
and you know and everybody you know

1082
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:18,960
every guitar player has strengths

1083
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:21,520
every guitar player has weaknesses and

1084
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,480
and if you listen to

1085
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,920
you know these guys talking you know you

1086
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,599
see even steve mike says you know like i

1087
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,040
focus on my strengths

1088
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,640
you know i know where my weaknesses are

1089
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,319
and i know what his weaknesses are too

1090
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,480
and i know where saturn's weaknesses are

1091
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,200
but you you you focus on what you

1092
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:38,240
which what makes you you and that's what

1093
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:39,520
makes you unique and try and become the

1094
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,480
best player you

1095
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,280
can i mean eddie van halen i know i

1096
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:46,160
still listen to the the the guitar solo

1097
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,200
for beat it

1098
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,680
and i still cannot figure out what he's

1099
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,480
doing yeah i know

1100
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,160
it's just the most amazing guitars i've

1101
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:53,760
ever heard in my life yeah yeah yeah

1102
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,880
yeah you got that right and uh there's

1103
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,559
there's another element to this and for

1104
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,720
all the musicians out there

1105
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,720
this i i did this like three or four

1106
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:03,760
different times

1107
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:07,040
in like 30 years where i would would

1108
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:07,760
shed

1109
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,800
the technical stuff right

1110
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,800
and and and go through that and go

1111
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,079
through that and then

1112
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,880
i would back off and i would go to

1113
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,079
stevie ray vaughan

1114
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:21,280
or i would go to zz top and

1115
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:24,880
get out of the box and into another box

1116
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,839
and then start writing because you know

1117
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:29,359
what i mean because that you know you

1118
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,960
forget about the technical

1119
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,640
because if you stay on the technical

1120
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,160
stuff you're gonna

1121
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,640
write that way you know so i would i

1122
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:38,960
would pull out of that i would go into

1123
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,079
listen to de guayo you know or texas

1124
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,000
flood for a few months

1125
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:46,480
and and not even touch uh the other

1126
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:47,280
stuff

1127
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,480
and then right you know and and

1128
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:52,000
and i found that that was something that

1129
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,520
really worked for me have you have you

1130
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,960
done that have you gone in and out of

1131
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:57,200
those phases

1132
00:49:01,910 --> 00:49:00,319
yeah like um yeah they're like i used to

1133
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,920
have this really regimented you know

1134
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:03,680
practice schedule of you know like

1135
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:07,040
15 minutes of chromatics and then

1136
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,640
you know 15 minutes of scales and all

1137
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,480
this other kind of stuff and what i end

1138
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,400
up founding was that i was

1139
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:14,160
i couldn't play after i was doing all

1140
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,920
the scales i spent all this time doing

1141
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:16,800
this technical

1142
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:20,240
theory stuff and i honestly you know

1143
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,680
jimmy the greatest thing i ever learned

1144
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,280
from ingram olmstein

1145
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,760
was when i when i found out he's never

1146
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:28,000
practiced a day in his life

1147
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,920
and that changed everything for me i

1148
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,119
realized he said yo when i pick up the

1149
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,800
guitar i'm just playing melodies

1150
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:35,119
and that's when i stop practicing and i

1151
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,559
when i pick up the guitar now i'm just

1152
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:38,160
playing melodies and coming up with rips

1153
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,040
and stuff

1154
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:41,119
and i just play and improvise and i

1155
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:42,720
learn so much more because your

1156
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,720
playing becomes more fluid and you're

1157
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:46,160
forgetting you're throwing away all this

1158
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:46,640
you know

1159
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,440
regimented structure crap um once you

1160
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,880
start knowing how to play stuff and come

1161
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:52,480
up their own melodies and start playing

1162
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:52,960
more

1163
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:57,040
challenged uh in that way and i just

1164
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,720
beg and the thing is that you're you're

1165
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:00,720
cr you're being creative at the same

1166
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:03,040
time that you're developing your chops

1167
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,480
but you're you're putting your heart

1168
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:06,240
back into it again so i stopped

1169
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:06,960
practicing

1170
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:10,000
like 10 years ago it's so funny i don't

1171
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:11,599
know if you're watching twitter right

1172
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:12,559
now

1173
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,000
but uh everybody it's it's

1174
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:18,240
great to see the fader not so engaged in

1175
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,440
this conversation

1176
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:22,240
scott helmer just said do do we all

1177
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,880
remember

1178
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,480
getting the latest issues of young

1179
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,319
guitar magazine from japan

1180
00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,680
i totally recommend young guitar

1181
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,760
rocked man if you could get your hands

1182
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:32,960
on that uh

1183
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,440
sad gamer dad says the biggest regret i

1184
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:36,720
i miss seeing ingva

1185
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,520
live with joelyn turner singing for him

1186
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:42,000
in 1989 because it was on my first day

1187
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,210
of driver's ed

1188
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:45,119
[Laughter]

1189
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,359
oh magic days man magic days it's uh

1190
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:51,359
my all-time favorite this is from lead

1191
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:52,800
farmer uh

1192
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:56,079
showing uh iron maiden yngwie malmsteen

1193
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:57,520
2018.

1194
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:01,200
so um yeah and it was it was an exciting

1195
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:01,839
time

1196
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:05,040
uh for guitar players because there was

1197
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:08,480
uh and for me especially back then

1198
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:12,079
i was so into conspiracy i was so into

1199
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:13,520
ufos

1200
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,800
and sitting in my bedroom if i wasn't at

1201
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:17,760
band rehearsal

1202
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:20,880
i'm i'm home practicing guitar

1203
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:24,319
and reading about ufos

1204
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:27,440
and and and conspiracy theory but i was

1205
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,599
able to do my own thing with the bedroom

1206
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,040
door closed

1207
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,119
and and get those things going at the

1208
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:36,000
same time was it the same for you i was

1209
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:37,359
just going to say dude

1210
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,800
too bad we didn't know each other back

1211
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:40,240
then because i was doing the exact same

1212
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:40,880
thing

1213
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,559
right you know i started reading bud

1214
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,839
hopkins books and

1215
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,760
the guy downstairs he had internet he

1216
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:49,280
was pulling off all these schematics

1217
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:49,680
from

1218
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:52,559
bob leiazar and and i was just like wow

1219
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:53,680
what is this stuff and i

1220
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,240
just then i just dove right in you know

1221
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:57,839
that's that's that was it for me

1222
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:00,640
you know did what was the uh what was

1223
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:01,680
the

1224
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,280
just bring up bing van mahlstein

1225
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,839
and these guitar players do you re do

1226
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:10,240
you remember back then what was the

1227
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,030
yeah i think it was i think it was

1228
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:18,559
watching um uh

1229
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,559
um um but um

1230
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:24,319
communion it was when i watched

1231
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:25,599
communion right

1232
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,839
that's what that totally just touched me

1233
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:28,800
so much

1234
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:32,000
that's really what did it for me is

1235
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,280
after seeing communion

1236
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:36,720
yeah you know you bring up a a very

1237
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,760
interesting point

1238
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,000
the first time that i saw the movie

1239
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:42,720
right communion christopher walken

1240
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,040
i i think i had a week or two

1241
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,960
of nightmares like some really bad

1242
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:51,040
dreams especially that first night that

1243
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,720
movie scared the crap out of me

1244
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:55,839
that movie was not a fun movie uh for me

1245
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:56,800
to watch

1246
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:00,400
and it really really affected me

1247
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:03,839
and this is what is strange you can't

1248
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:07,119
watch it now it's not on any streaming

1249
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:08,319
service

1250
00:53:15,270 --> 00:53:11,440
it's not no no you can't buy it

1251
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:15,280
you can't it is not there i challenge

1252
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,880
anybody to find communion right now

1253
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:21,599
and send me the link because i've tried

1254
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:22,480
to watch it

1255
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,319
out with uh for whitley now

1256
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,720
uh for five or six years and every time

1257
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:30,319
i hang out with whitley

1258
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,760
you know i come on like man i want to

1259
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,760
watch communion yeah

1260
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,839
and i try to find it can't find it

1261
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,040
cannot find it

1262
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,040
yeah yeah it's just so weird yeah it's

1263
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,040
very strange very strange

1264
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:43,119
now what about this we're going to be

1265
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:44,640
headed towards a break and i want to set

1266
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:45,119
up for

1267
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:48,720
when we return um i know

1268
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,200
that you had your experience in 2014

1269
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:52,720
we're going to talk about that

1270
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,000
but prior to that as a kid did you have

1271
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:58,559
any ufo sightings were your parents into

1272
00:54:02,790 --> 00:53:58,960
this

1273
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:02,800
was there any influence from the family

1274
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,079
what happened was um i actually had a

1275
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,079
ufo experience in the year 2000 that

1276
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:09,520
took place up in huntsville

1277
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,480
ontario with my band mates um we went

1278
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,920
swimming in the lake one night and it

1279
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,200
was a you know

1280
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:17,440
clear starry starry night with a full

1281
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,240
moon

1282
00:54:21,829 --> 00:54:20,319
and our singer who doesn't believe in

1283
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,839
ufos he went into the hop

1284
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,839
into the sauna and then my my drummer

1285
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,960
and i were out there

1286
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:26,559
and then all of a sudden like we heard

1287
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:30,400
this strange kind of sparkling soundless

1288
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:32,559
sound like a firecrackers and then we

1289
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:33,760
look up at the sky

1290
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,079
and there is this object that's hurtling

1291
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:38,240
towards us that was the same diameter as

1292
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,960
the moon

1293
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,960
and had flames all shooting around the

1294
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,000
sides of it and

1295
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,680
i guess trajectory was heading right for

1296
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,240
us like right to our heads

1297
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,920
and i remember hearing that sound as it

1298
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:49,359
was flying right at us and we should

1299
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,480
have killed us because it was right

1300
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,160
heading right for us it wasn't like it

1301
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:53,839
fell out of the sky like in like a media

1302
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:55,040
like meteor it was like right over our

1303
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,559
heads immediately

1304
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,400
and then it was just like here's and

1305
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,160
also there was a flash

1306
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:02,400
and it was gone and it was peaceful and

1307
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,200
quiet

1308
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,680
and we just went whoa what the heck was

1309
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,280
that yeah was that your phone

1310
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:10,160
yeah what the heck was it well that's

1311
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,280
the whole thing we

1312
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,280
didn't understand at the time we both

1313
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:15,200
wanted to have a ufo experience

1314
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,119
and all of a sudden it was happening and

1315
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,720
i'm watching this thing flying towards

1316
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:19,680
us really quickly and all of a sudden

1317
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,720
there's a flash

1318
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:23,040
and it's gone i had i didn't even blink

1319
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,799
and we both thought what happened

1320
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:26,000
and we didn't really talk about it the

1321
00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:27,200
next day we just kind of took it as a

1322
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,240
weird thing

1323
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:31,280
it would be 13 years later after

1324
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,720
my ufo incident of 2014 when i started

1325
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,079
to reanalyze that

1326
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,640
situation and then the guys that i i did

1327
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,920
a radio interview and the guys talk

1328
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:41,280
about you know when they describe what

1329
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,640
missing time was

1330
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,319
right i said yeah it's like a bad bad

1331
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:46,160
movie at it and that's all of a sudden

1332
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,720
when the

1333
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,240
arm my hair my arms stood up and

1334
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,760
realized oh my god

1335
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:51,200
that's what happened i was like watching

1336
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,960
this thing i didn't even blink it was

1337
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,480
like somebody hit the you know the next

1338
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,880
chapter on the dvd you know movie

1339
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:59,040
and i missed the best part of the movie

1340
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,319
i realized that i

1341
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:03,200
had some kind of i don't know abduction

1342
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,839
um

1343
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,760
something happened what about your

1344
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,119
bandmate what

1345
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:10,240
what did he say he

1346
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,280
um he kind of remembers the same thing

1347
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:16,079
as us as me but his details are just a

1348
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:17,520
little bit different

1349
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,599
um and i can't remember what he said but

1350
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,760
um but he was there too like he but he

1351
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:23,280
was he was a witness to this whole thing

1352
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,319
too

1353
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:27,760
and uh he was the basis uh he was the

1354
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,319
drummer

1355
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,359
okay yeah well that counts

1356
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,799
but it feels the bass player wouldn't

1357
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:34,880
count so

1358
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:39,119
but um i kid i kid everybody it's just a

1359
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,079
joke i kid

1360
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:43,440
not really but i kid um but it was

1361
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:46,640
it was the drummer and and

1362
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,680
i only bring that up because guitar

1363
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:50,960
players think one way

1364
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:54,400
singers you know or another no bass

1365
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,200
players

1366
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,720
they only hang out with other bass

1367
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:58,400
players by the way and then

1368
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:00,799
and then drummers everybody's got their

1369
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,119
own little personality right

1370
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,680
and so if you got your whole band there

1371
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:07,599
and they all see the same thing

1372
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:08,720
you're gonna have four different

1373
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,400
opinions uh about what went down um

1374
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:14,480
and hearing a drummer's opinion i'm very

1375
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,599
interested in

1376
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:17,839
so does he still talk about it today are

1377
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,000
you guys still in touch

1378
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,160
uh we are still in touch he's had many

1379
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,160
ufo encounters because he's a you know

1380
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:26,079
he's as much of a you know studies him

1381
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:27,680
as much as i do

1382
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:30,400
um he also he actually quit the band to

1383
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,880
study

1384
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:32,640
crop circles full time and he was going

1385
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,400
to sites and stuff like that and

1386
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:37,119
you know so he was very very avid um he

1387
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:38,720
also did crazy stuff too like he built

1388
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:39,280
his own

1389
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:42,400
tesla coil in the basement and then he

1390
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,680
built these like um these

1391
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:47,839
anti-gravity things it was like it was

1392
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,720
like two

1393
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:51,119
toothpicks with uh tin foil around like

1394
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:52,319
in a triangle

1395
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,640
attached to a to an old computer monitor

1396
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,920
for juice and then all of a sudden he

1397
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:59,119
pressed a button and there was this

1398
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plasma stream that was

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going around the uh the tin foil

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and it was levitating off the ground so

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he did all these weird science

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experiments all the time

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it was pretty crazy oh man i'm loving

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these pictures oh guess

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guess what we're going to take a break

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right here uh

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00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:22,480
six months ago maybe a little bit longer

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00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:25,680
rita and i went to go see al dimiola

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and steve vi play together

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at a little at a little nightclub down

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the street

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i mean how crazy is that wow

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yeah yeah yeah i posted some pretty

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crazy pictures

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and uh up close and personal man with

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the evo

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there in a stand and

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and uh i could have reached out and

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00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:51,599
touched it but i

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i did you would have killed you yeah but

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but i took some really great pictures

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00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,920
i'm talking about a nightclub uh there

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00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:00,400
was probably

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i don't know rita if she's listening how

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00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:04,799
many people do you think were there

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a hundred maybe maybe

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00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:11,280
maybe a hundred and fifty it wasn't

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no it was a you know dinner and drinks

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and

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trippy that's crazy

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yeah it was it was a whole lot of fun it

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was a whole lot of fun

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let's uh take our break right here kevin

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we'll be right back tonight

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kevin estrella pyramids on mars it is

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night three of ufo week here on fade to

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black

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i'll be right back after this short

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break all of kevin's links

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are over at jimmyturdsradio.com all

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church tonight

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ufo week night three kevin estrella's

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01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:11,200
here

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guitar player for pyramids on mars radio

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host

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it's gonna be a great night and check

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this out

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01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:21,359
so so kevin i'm watching twitter right

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everybody's invade comments and

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01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:24,720
and how they're big you know they're big

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01:05:29,670 --> 01:05:27,200
fans how cool is that right to have the

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fade to black the fader knots

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understand what we're talking about

1581
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,359
right now but and it got me

1582
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:35,599
thinking you want me to tell you a quick

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01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,359
invase story

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01:05:41,069 --> 01:05:39,200
love it but here it layout okay all

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01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:41,079
right so

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01:05:49,430 --> 01:05:45,680
1985 i go to get i've got my hair

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01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:49,440
my long hair right my

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01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:52,480
sunset strip aqua net hair

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01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:55,599
band hair and i go to get my hair cut at

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this

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01:06:02,230 --> 01:05:59,200
pretty famous uh long hair

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01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:02,240
salon in pasadena and i go and i sit

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down and

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01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:05,920
and uh and the guy that owns the shop

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01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:08,240
he's cutting my hair a cool guy

1596
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:10,559
and and i'm sitting there and you know

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01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:12,160
talking blah blah blah and his assistant

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01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,839
comes in she goes okay

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01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:16,079
uh ingva's manager just called he's

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gonna be here in 15 minutes

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01:06:21,829 --> 01:06:20,240
and he goes okay prep that chair right

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01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:21,839
there and he points next to

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01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:24,240
where we are and he says prep that chair

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01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:27,119
and i'm looking in the mirror like

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01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:30,160
what right yeah no kidding

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01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:34,880
what everything just slowed down

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01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:37,039
and and he's just cutting my hair and

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01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:38,000
we're talking

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01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:41,599
and and i can't even think man

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01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:43,760
and sure enough man 15 minutes later man

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01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,799
in waxing bay

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01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,960
sits down in the chair next to me looks

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01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:48,720
at me in the mirror and i'm looking at

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01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,520
him

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01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,359
and he's like hey man i go hey man

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01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:53,359
what's going on what's going on

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01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:56,880
nothing and uh and i'm like holy crap

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01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,680
and now okay so that was what 35 years

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ago

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and uh i don't remember much but but

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anyway so i'm done

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01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:07,119
and and i get up and i go do my thing

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01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:09,280
and i walk outside

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01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:12,240
and there's this like i don't even know

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01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:13,599
how to describe the color

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01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:16,640
almost like mint green or green or

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yellow

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jaguar convertible sitting out front and

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with the top down

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and i went i bet you that's his car man

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01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:28,720
ah ying vey but yeah there's my ingredie

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story

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there you go yeah it was pretty cool

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01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,880
that was pretty cool

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01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,400
ingredients manager just called he's

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01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,559
going to be here in 15 minutes

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01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,160
can you believe he has to get his

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01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:40,400
manager to book his hair appointment i

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01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:41,680
guarantee it

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01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:45,039
yeah you would too don't lie

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01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:48,799
don't lie um uh real quick before uh we

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01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:50,559
get back to ufos

1643
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:54,559
uh what's your what's your main guitar

1644
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:57,920
i would say um since i bought it my uh

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01:08:01,589 --> 01:08:00,799
my signature guitar is now my main

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01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:01,599
guitar

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01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:04,720
that's

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yeah uh three single coils three single

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01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,160
coils are active single coils

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01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,960
right um it's the ultimate super strat

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01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:13,680
uh

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01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:16,480
alex lassen built this guitar back back

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01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:17,359
in the 80s

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01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:21,199
with a company in aurora ontario

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01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:23,120
and they built these signature guitars

1656
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:24,960
they only made 500 of them

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01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:27,199
um he uh he played it on the hold your

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01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,080
fire

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01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:30,560
tour album which was a huge influence on

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01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:31,359
me

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01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:33,679
and um in the show of hands live you

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01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,400
know live

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01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,960
dvd where you actually see him playing

1664
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,480
the signature guitar

1665
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,719
and i just fell in love with that sound

1666
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:42,159
that was like my first get uh rush

1667
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,640
concert

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01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,640
was hold your fire and i was so

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01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:46,400
influenced by that that i had to have

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01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:47,120
that guitar

1671
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:50,640
so it totally changed his tone and

1672
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:53,920
i was so happy to i thought that he was

1673
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:55,120
gonna go all strat

1674
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:57,279
after that you know before that it was

1675
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:58,480
all les paul's

1676
01:09:02,070 --> 01:09:01,679
and uh it it was something i thought

1677
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,080
okay

1678
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,319
all right you know he's he's jumping on

1679
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,239
it and then uh

1680
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:08,239
it was kind of weird when he went back

1681
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:09,839
and and started playing

1682
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,319
the les pauls with the floyd rose right

1683
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,239
the alex lifes and model

1684
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,839
so he kind of had the best of both

1685
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,440
worlds there where he

1686
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,600
jumped you know he dipped his toe in the

1687
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:20,799
strat water

1688
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:23,359
for a minute and it kind of came back

1689
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,319
out and went

1690
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:27,359
over and had that uh uh which i still

1691
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:28,799
i want to get one of those i would love

1692
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:31,040
to get one of the alex lifes and uh les

1693
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:32,080
pauls

1694
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,759
uh those are pretty cool those are

1695
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,440
pretty cool how many uh

1696
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,679
strats do you have you big strat guy i

1697
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:39,040
know i've seen you play

1698
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,159
one yeah i've got uh an invade malmsteen

1699
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,319
strat which i built myself

1700
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:46,319
i've seen that one and that one's

1701
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,000
scalloped did you scallop

1702
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:50,719
it to yourself actually i um ordered

1703
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:51,520
that neck

1704
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:54,320
from china um but it was unfinished

1705
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:56,239
right and so when i got it i sanded it

1706
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,800
down

1707
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:59,040
and i i completely varnished it myself

1708
01:10:02,790 --> 01:09:59,920
so i got like an

1709
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,800
antique uh you know the antique varnish

1710
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,400
and um you know it's got like

1711
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,320
25 coats on it and then uh you know and

1712
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,239
then the super gloss

1713
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,400
so i did the whole neck myself and i'm

1714
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,679
really proud of that uh

1715
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:13,520
how it turned out it's a beautiful

1716
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:15,760
guitar yeah i've got one of those too

1717
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:16,400
but

1718
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:20,640
uh i haven't scalloped the neck yet

1719
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:23,520
um but i've got the ingva pickups in it

1720
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:24,080
and uh

1721
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,800
you know the seymour duncans and i've

1722
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,560
put the invade pickups in just about

1723
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:30,719
everything that i have uh that single

1724
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:31,760
coil

1725
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:34,560
um yeah then i don't tell anybody you

1726
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,280
know they're just

1727
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:37,679
i i swapped the covers so they don't

1728
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,719
know right

1729
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:41,040
those are ring bait pickups in there but

1730
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:41,920
uh

1731
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,040
yeah yeah so i've got the classic

1732
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:48,640
uh you know olympic white uh 74

1733
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:51,280
strat you know it's uh yeah it's pretty

1734
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:52,560
cool maple neck

1735
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,679
that thing plays beautifully but uh i'm

1736
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:56,880
going to scallop

1737
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:59,679
it at some point i'm i'm gonna do it

1738
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:00,800
myself and

1739
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:03,199
and see what happens but yeah i've got

1740
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:04,400
to do it

1741
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,080
i love it i just love it so much

1742
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:10,880
like playing on air and your vibrato is

1743
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,560
so much controlled

1744
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,960
it's really changes the guitar totally

1745
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:16,480
and i'm very comfortable playing a

1746
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:17,440
scalloped neck

1747
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:21,840
yeah i um i back in the 80s

1748
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,840
when neil moser was building all of my

1749
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:25,280
guitars for me

1750
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,120
i would have them put on like base frets

1751
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:31,199
right and i wouldn't scallop but i would

1752
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:32,640
get these massive

1753
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:35,760
frets on the guitars so

1754
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:39,199
everything that i have now i don't have

1755
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:40,239
anything with small

1756
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:42,400
frets everything that i'm looking for

1757
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,760
jumbo frets yeah yeah

1758
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,520
the bigger the better man i don't like

1759
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:47,600
touching the fretboard at all

1760
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:51,120
um i prefer maple necks uh but i've got

1761
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:54,159
a mix i guess one two three

1762
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:57,840
four five six seven

1763
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:01,120
eight nine i've got nine rosewood

1764
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,560
guitars in here i didn't even think i

1765
01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:04,000
had that many

1766
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,199
uh rosewood uh when i prefer maple

1767
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,239
and i've got one two three

1768
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,520
four five six let me turn around seven

1769
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:16,640
eight nine maples and

1770
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:19,760
eight rosewoods uh here in the studio

1771
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:21,920
wow i didn't realize it was 50 50. i

1772
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:23,760
thought everything was maple

1773
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,480
yeah it's kind of it's just if they play

1774
01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:27,679
right they play right

1775
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:30,880
right right yeah yeah so uh

1776
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:33,520
now let's uh now that i got that out of

1777
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:35,040
the way i don't know how we got so far

1778
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:41,189
and i'm sure we'll swing back um what

1779
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:41,920
happened

1780
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,000
in uh 2014 oh my god well it's

1781
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,719
it there's a it was a life-changing

1782
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:50,320
moment but actually

1783
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:52,880
it was the only the catalyst for it was

1784
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,600
basically the

1785
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,400
um the calling card but was what it's

1786
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:58,159
what happened eight months after that

1787
01:13:01,350 --> 01:12:59,760
incident is when everything came

1788
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:01,360
together when the synchronicities took

1789
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,320
place

1790
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:04,800
um it's a crazy story and i i i always

1791
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:05,600
tell it

1792
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:10,080
so basically it was august uh 21st 2014

1793
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,440
um i um i put my kids to bed and i go

1794
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:15,120
out into my deck and i live

1795
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:17,199
i live in you know hamilton which is a

1796
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:18,320
city about 500

1797
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,600
000 and our house is in a very suburban

1798
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:23,600
you know neighborhood um you know we

1799
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:24,960
live like you know

1800
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:26,800
very it's very heavily populated we're

1801
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,560
just off of the main street

1802
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,480
of upper james in the main here's where

1803
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,480
the main strip is so it's very very

1804
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,920
it's not like it's a you know a

1805
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:35,520
non-well-known area it's like

1806
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:38,480
it's it's metropolis and so i get under

1807
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:39,120
my deck

1808
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:41,520
and then my neighbor on my right hand

1809
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:42,239
side had this

1810
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,400
you know tree and all of a sudden this

1811
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:46,159
object started coming out from behind

1812
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:46,560
the

1813
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,040
tree and it was it was only like

1814
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:53,679
100 you know maybe maybe maybe 100 yards

1815
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:54,320
away

1816
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:57,760
it was so close and it was only like

1817
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,199
maybe 125 feet off the ground

1818
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:03,040
and at first i thought it was a meteor

1819
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:04,400
because when it came around

1820
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:07,679
out of the tree it was orangish red

1821
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:11,920
and it was glowing like hot coals

1822
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,400
but it had this mist that was coming off

1823
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:16,000
the top of it and out of the bottom of

1824
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:16,400
it

1825
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:23,760
moving like the speed of a helicopter

1826
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:26,960
just across the distance of my backyard

1827
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,920
and i'm looking at it going what is that

1828
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:31,280
how big was it what the

1829
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:34,640
f is that yeah yeah how big was it

1830
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:37,040
it was about i would say probably 40 at

1831
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:38,400
least 40 feet

1832
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:41,360
in diameter wow and maybe maybe 15 feet

1833
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,239
you know tall

1834
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:44,320
and it was it was honestly if i if i had

1835
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:45,920
a you know a rock i probably could have

1836
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:48,000
thrown hit it it was that close

1837
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,679
and it was only like you know like a

1838
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:51,120
hundred feet off the ground in a

1839
01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:54,719
in a suburban neighborhood over a

1840
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:57,199
over subdivision and it went okay the

1841
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:58,400
other thing about this thing jimmy that

1842
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,840
was so crazy about it i didn't pick it

1843
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:01,679
up until two weeks later

1844
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:04,960
it was two-dimensional two-dimensional

1845
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:08,239
so it had it had height it had width but

1846
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:09,199
it had no

1847
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:12,400
depth it looked like looking at a

1848
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,719
a solar eclipse if you can imagine

1849
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,400
picture solar eclipse

1850
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,159
wow but then turn that into like a you

1851
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:20,000
know let's look at the side view of a

1852
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:20,560
ufo

1853
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:22,400
like a disc that's what it looked like

1854
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,400
it looked like a wholeness guy and so

1855
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,880
it moves just the distance of my

1856
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:28,239
backyard only

1857
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:30,560
and then it goes south towards bimbrook

1858
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:33,440
but then as it's turning away from me

1859
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,480
the the glowing glowingness of it this i

1860
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,239
found it what it was was actually plasma

1861
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:39,920
it was completely covered in plasma

1862
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:42,400
and as it was turning away that plasma

1863
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:44,320
stream slowly faded away to the point

1864
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:44,960
where this

1865
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,360
ufo was just a black it was just a black

1866
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:48,960
object it had no light whatsoever

1867
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:50,880
from the from the back end of it when i

1868
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,120
saw its back it was black

1869
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,800
and it was actually kind of oblong it

1870
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,719
wasn't so it wasn't a complete circle it

1871
01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:58,239
was a little bit oblong

1872
01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:00,480
it was really wild but simultaneously as

1873
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:01,520
it was turning

1874
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:03,920
it had this swirling vortex that was

1875
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,800
kind of

1876
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,360
creating in the front of it like a like

1877
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,360
um was like like an umbrella

1878
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:12,000
and it was like almost like uh you know

1879
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:13,120
i think it was like it looked like it

1880
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,520
was like

1881
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,679
creating a portal as it then just kind

1882
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:17,520
of flew away at the distance

1883
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:19,120
so i was completely freaked out i didn't

1884
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,400
even know what i was looking at until

1885
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:22,159
after it was gone and realized

1886
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:25,520
oh my god i think i just saw ufo and you

1887
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:28,000
know i filled out a report to mufon

1888
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,640
and um it would be almost eight months

1889
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:32,400
later before i would find out what would

1890
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:33,280
actually

1891
01:16:40,910 --> 01:16:36,560
transpired so um

1892
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:40,920
i um it was um the summer of

1893
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:44,000
2015 and i found out there was

1894
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,120
this uh ufo it was the alien cosmic expo

1895
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:49,760
the very first ufo conference in ontario

1896
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:50,239
at

1897
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,800
brantford and they had a big article in

1898
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,000
the newspaper

1899
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:56,080
and um they had you know they had the

1900
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:57,440
whole the whole lineup of who was

1901
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:58,080
speaking

1902
01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:59,920
and i was really excited and i opened it

1903
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:01,199
up and i said oh stanton friedman's

1904
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,480
going to be there that's awesome i've

1905
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:04,320
seen some of his videos

1906
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:06,239
but then it was when i saw one of the

1907
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,480
guest speakers grant cameron and what

1908
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,560
grant cameron was talking about

1909
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,719
that's when the hairs on my arm stood up

1910
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,600
because at this point

1911
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:15,280
i had already released my first cd

1912
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,199
pyramids on mars and i was using

1913
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:19,920
my music as a catalyst to with you know

1914
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:21,120
to help you know to basically

1915
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,080
you know um raise consciousness that the

1916
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,920
ufo and et phenomenon i was already

1917
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:27,040
doing this

1918
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:29,920
and then it said grant cameras talking

1919
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:30,320
about

1920
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,320
musicians and extraterrestrials and how

1921
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,840
extraterrestrials are contacting

1922
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,520
musicians to raise consciousness

1923
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:38,080
frequency on the planet right and i'm

1924
01:17:44,550 --> 01:17:40,719
like oh my god

1925
01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:44,560
this is about me yeah yeah i remember um

1926
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,040
it was probably around that time 2014

1927
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:50,159
2015 when grant wrote that book

1928
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:53,600
i went to go he might have been on the

1929
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:55,199
show but i went to go see him speak here

1930
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:56,320
in la

1931
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,679
um about the book and

1932
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:01,760
it was uh pretty well done and pretty

1933
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:02,960
well researched

1934
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,360
by grant and it was an eye-opener for me

1935
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:06,960
i didn't realize

1936
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:09,040
because i always look at the the bands

1937
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:10,239
that uh

1938
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,280
influenced me i don't necessarily know a

1939
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,120
whole lot about you know bands that i'm

1940
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,640
not into if you know what i mean

1941
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:19,040
especially about the ufo subject but

1942
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:20,880
he's going down the list and i was like

1943
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:21,920
wow i didn't

1944
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:24,960
i i just didn't realize any of this oh i

1945
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:28,800
i forgot to bring up speaking of bands

1946
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,719
and and ufos you got the best man you

1947
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:34,719
got triumph

1948
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:37,679
right and yeah was was triumphant

1949
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,320
influence

1950
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:41,280
and they were uh especially when you go

1951
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:41,920
back to like

1952
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:46,320
allied forces um that album to me was

1953
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,709
no i hadn't checked out the lyrics i

1954
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,040
don't know i i used to listen to triumph

1955
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,440
back in the day yeah um you know i used

1956
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:59,760
to play some of their stuff too

1957
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:01,360
there was actually one time where we um

1958
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:03,840
we played a gig in downtown toronto and

1959
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:04,480
uh

1960
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,159
and rick emmett was actually playing an

1961
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:08,719
acoustic set upstairs and they um

1962
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:12,080
they shut our our our concert down below

1963
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:13,360
because we were too loud

1964
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:15,440
and so um when we finally got on stage

1965
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:17,040
we were so pissed off that we opened up

1966
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:17,440
playing

1967
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,280
follow your heart

1968
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,640
[Laughter]

1969
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:22,719
i went through the same experience with

1970
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:23,679
rick emmett that's

1971
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:26,960
that's really funny uh an acoustic thing

1972
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:30,239
um okay so back to uh this

1973
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:34,640
this sighting when you say 2d

1974
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:38,080
i'm picturing are you saying it was flat

1975
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:41,360
like a picture like 2d yeah like it

1976
01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:42,159
didn't have

1977
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:44,960
know you think you'd see a disc and

1978
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,880
you'd be able to see at least um

1979
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:48,239
you know part of it coming out towards

1980
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:50,080
you but no it was his flat it was like

1981
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:51,760
completely two-dimensional

1982
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:54,080
how do you explain how do you explain

1983
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,280
that

1984
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:58,159
i don't know but i do remember um

1985
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,159
somebody posted a picture of a ufo

1986
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:02,560
pitcher it was supposed to be a ufo over

1987
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:03,199
a you

1988
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:06,080
a military base um you know with

1989
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:07,360
something that has to do with like you

1990
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:08,000
know um

1991
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:10,880
it was checking out the the ballistic

1992
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,840
missiles

1993
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,120
but that was the first time that i ever

1994
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:15,120
saw a ufo that looked exactly like what

1995
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:15,760
i saw

1996
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:19,120
it was glowing orangish red it too was

1997
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:21,280
um two-dimensional uh from the way it

1998
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:23,040
looked just from the plasma stream so

1999
01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:24,000
it's hard it's

2000
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:25,280
when you when you see something like

2001
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:28,560
this it's displaying physics that don't

2002
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:31,360
meet what we are normally seeing what we

2003
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,320
expect to see

2004
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,000
and that's why when they when i saw this

2005
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:35,600
thing i didn't even know i was looking

2006
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:37,280
at a flying saucer

2007
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,880
because i never seen anything that

2008
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,719
displayed physics like this

2009
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,480
and i was you know honestly jimmy i had

2010
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,560
always hoped my whole life to see a ufo

2011
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:46,080
after that i had that that incident

2012
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,600
happened i was

2013
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:50,159
i was distraught for two weeks i was so

2014
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:50,639
upset

2015
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,480
because it didn't fit into my reality

2016
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,960
it didn't fit in the physics didn't fit

2017
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:57,840
into my reality

2018
01:21:01,270 --> 01:21:00,000
i didn't know things could be you know

2019
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:01,280
covered in plasma

2020
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:02,560
i didn't think no things could be

2021
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:05,040
two-dimensional and why was it waiting

2022
01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:06,080
for me

2023
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:08,159
that was the whole thing it showed up

2024
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:10,000
when i stood out there

2025
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,520
and that's the thing that i found out

2026
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:13,280
you know six months later

2027
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:15,679
because i ran into stu bundy of mufon

2028
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:16,320
who took my

2029
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,840
report and um and he you know he said it

2030
01:21:21,830 --> 01:21:21,120
was one of the most authentic sightings

2031
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:21,840
they had come up

2032
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:24,400
across um and it was my description of

2033
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:26,000
the plasma stream disappearing when it

2034
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:27,360
turned he said that's when we realized

2035
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:28,639
you were looking at actual physical

2036
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:29,760
object

2037
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:32,320
but um but then i said to him okay well

2038
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:33,760
how many other people were reported that

2039
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,960
that night there must have been like

2040
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,239
dozens because it was like

2041
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,800
you know in the city of hamilton and he

2042
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:40,400
said well that's the thing

2043
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:42,960
nobody else reported it nobody else saw

2044
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,600
it

2045
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:45,840
you were the only one i'm like that's

2046
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:46,639
impossible

2047
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:49,440
how did it was freaked out yeah totally

2048
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:50,800
totally how did it

2049
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:53,840
exit it

2050
01:21:57,669 --> 01:21:56,719
came across my backyard and and just as

2051
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:57,679
i got over my

2052
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:01,520
over my um um my my shed it was it was

2053
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,960
kind of it was turning

2054
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,120
and going south so it was it was moving

2055
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:07,440
away from me so it's acin was

2056
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:09,600
was facing towards me and then it just

2057
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,719
kind of just kept going

2058
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:12,480
off into the distance until i couldn't

2059
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:14,480
see it anymore okay so when it made the

2060
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:15,280
turn

2061
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:18,800
because it was two-dimensional

2062
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:22,080
was it flat you know like a quarter

2063
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:25,199
like a coin no at that point

2064
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,040
it was three-dimensional i'm glad you

2065
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:28,800
brought that up at that point when i

2066
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,800
when i saw that when i saw that it no

2067
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:32,639
longer had light but it was just a black

2068
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:33,360
object

2069
01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:35,920
that's when i saw that it was um oblong

2070
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:37,360
so it was kind of like

2071
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:39,280
stretched out it wasn't like a circle it

2072
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:40,800
was like more like

2073
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:44,480
like um like a like oval like a egg

2074
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:48,159
wow that's an incredible sighting and uh

2075
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:51,520
so it just flew away it didn't phase out

2076
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:54,800
it stayed physical it stayed physical

2077
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:58,480
yeah and i want to jump to the other

2078
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:01,120
side to the beginning of it

2079
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,719
uh did it did it remain physical

2080
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:07,120
or did it phase in i mean how did it

2081
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:07,840
appear

2082
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,280
as you were observing it it was it

2083
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:13,199
came from right behind right behind a

2084
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,960
tree right it

2085
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,800
literally was hiding behind the tree

2086
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:18,639
waiting for me that's what it seemed

2087
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,120
like

2088
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:21,120
right because i i get onto my deck and

2089
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,320
now i'm looking around

2090
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,239
and there's nothing there and then it

2091
01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:26,560
was right behind this tree

2092
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:28,320
and it was a big tree but the thing was

2093
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:29,679
like it it wasn't

2094
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:31,840
in front of the tree or it wasn't from

2095
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:32,719
at the side

2096
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:34,719
it was literally right behind the tree

2097
01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:35,840
how was it just

2098
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,400
i happened to be there at the same time

2099
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,840
that it was popping out

2100
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:42,159
right come to visit me to meet me like

2101
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,000
it was like it was waiting for me

2102
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:47,520
no i'm really enjoying this and i'm glad

2103
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:50,080
you're sounding as crazy as i do

2104
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:53,600
right because you can't um

2105
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,520
something like this when it happens and

2106
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:58,080
it happens the way that it happens

2107
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:59,679
and you're being honest you're just

2108
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:01,280
saying what

2109
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:04,800
you know what happened and it sounds

2110
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:09,840
nuts but things like this happen

2111
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:12,960
it does now um you know you know same

2112
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:14,560
story i can't i can't make it up

2113
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:16,960
right so the the craft is too big to

2114
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:19,920
hide behind the tree

2115
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:22,239
like me i'm too big to hide behind a

2116
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:23,280
tree

2117
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:26,000
so it's obviously too big behind to hide

2118
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:27,040
behind the tree but

2119
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:29,679
it appears on the other side it just

2120
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:31,280
starts to appear

2121
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,880
and coming out from behind the tree but

2122
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:34,480
you don't see the other half of the

2123
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,920
craft

2124
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,320
on the other side of the tree right is

2125
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:40,320
that what happened no

2126
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:43,120
exactly it was like i get on my deck and

2127
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,480
i'm just standing there

2128
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,400
and you know the tree's there and then

2129
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,920
it just comes out from right behind the

2130
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,719
tree

2131
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,159
so it was like it was like it was

2132
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:52,400
waiting there yeah

2133
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,120
it's almost like a cartoon

2134
01:25:00,550 --> 01:25:00,000
yeah right pretty much yeah yeah like a

2135
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:00,560
cartoon

2136
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,679
the vibe that happened at that moment

2137
01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:10,719
did you have anything uh

2138
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:14,080
conscious or mental uh uh between you

2139
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:15,360
and the craft was there any

2140
01:25:20,070 --> 01:25:16,560
communication

2141
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:20,080
were you afraid no i didn't have any

2142
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:20,960
communication

2143
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:24,239
i was just i was absolutely mesmerized i

2144
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:24,639
was

2145
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:31,920
i thought i thought first i thought it

2146
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:32,800
was a meteor

2147
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,920
that was coming into the earth's

2148
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:36,080
atmosphere but then i realized wait no

2149
01:25:38,709 --> 01:25:37,600
this thing's this thing's really really

2150
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:38,719
close

2151
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,840
then when it came into full view it just

2152
01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:46,000
took its time going across the sky

2153
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:48,800
just really slow like hello i'm here

2154
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:49,840
hello

2155
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:52,000
and i was just standing there in

2156
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:53,280
absolute awe

2157
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:55,920
i was just my jaw dropped and i'm just

2158
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:56,800
like

2159
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,000
i didn't know what i was looking at i

2160
01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,920
honestly didn't i was just taking it in

2161
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:01,760
i didn't blink

2162
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:04,239
what happened what happened after that

2163
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:05,280
like that night

2164
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:09,199
and and the nights after

2165
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:11,280
actually actually jimmy it was what

2166
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:13,360
happened ten days before

2167
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,199
okay that was really interesting what

2168
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:17,360
happened ten days before

2169
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:21,040
um i had this major telepathic incident

2170
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:22,159
happened

2171
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:26,159
so um i was it was a sunday evening

2172
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:29,440
and i'm doing dishes and all of a sudden

2173
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:32,159
i have this this this thing just shoots

2174
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:34,000
into my mind and i'm seeing the end of

2175
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,159
the movie of bicentennial man with

2176
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:38,960
robin williams right um the one with the

2177
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,719
move where he plays the android who

2178
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,800
lives for years 100 200 years and

2179
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:44,400
decides he wants to die

2180
01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:46,080
and so he has himself unplugged and he's

2181
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:47,679
lying in bed with that sad

2182
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:50,159
smile as the camera's fading away as the

2183
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:51,600
life is leading his body

2184
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:54,880
i saw that so vividly and i was so taken

2185
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:55,520
back

2186
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:57,679
i was i don't know why but that is what

2187
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:59,920
i saw burning into my into my soul and

2188
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:01,120
was like oh my god

2189
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,719
i gotta watch this movie right now i

2190
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,280
feel so sad i feel so desperate so tired

2191
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:06,719
this is horrible i have to watch this

2192
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,440
movie right now jimmy

2193
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:12,239
it was the next day which was august

2194
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,280
11th

2195
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,360
that was the day that that robin

2196
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:16,960
williams took his life

2197
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:20,400
wow wow

2198
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:23,600
wow incredible incredible incredible

2199
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:27,199
um yeah i don't have words for that i

2200
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:30,719
when uh when things like

2201
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:34,159
that happen most people

2202
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:37,199
ignore it right or they're in denial

2203
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:41,040
about it what what we have to do

2204
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:44,880
uh and do this more often is just stop

2205
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:48,480
and and start asking questions why why

2206
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:51,120
you know why did that movie pop up why

2207
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:53,280
did i watch it last night why was i

2208
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,040
so drawn there's something going on here

2209
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:59,280
and you need to just stop and and and

2210
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:00,320
try to uh

2211
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:02,560
not only get the questions answered but

2212
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:03,679
not forget

2213
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,920
the moment you have to stay in the

2214
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,120
moment you cannot

2215
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:09,600
you cannot just let it go and dismiss it

2216
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:12,000
like it's nothing

2217
01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:14,800
yeah i think it was honestly like it was

2218
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,199
uh

2219
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,400
robin williams was in absolute distress

2220
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:20,080
and i picked up on his tele you know to

2221
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,760
that telepathic um

2222
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,920
message and it hit me so hard it was

2223
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:24,960
like you know

2224
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:26,719
you know alderaan being blown up and and

2225
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,239
obi-wan kenobi's like you know

2226
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,239
all you know messed up that's exactly

2227
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:32,000
how it felt and um

2228
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,760
when i found it when i found out that he

2229
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,440
had died i stopped and you know grabbed

2230
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:37,440
my wife at the time and i said oh my god

2231
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,120
i've got telepathy

2232
01:28:42,709 --> 01:28:41,360
or some kind of clear cognizance this is

2233
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,719
no joke

2234
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:45,360
and and i i that was when i i was

2235
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:46,880
convicted that oh my god

2236
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,560
i have this ability it was actually

2237
01:28:51,030 --> 01:28:49,920
already happening when i was writing my

2238
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:51,040
first album

2239
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:53,120
um and i was all this crazy telepathic

2240
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:54,480
stuff was happening where you know i

2241
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:54,880
would

2242
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,480
you know phone somebody and they said i

2243
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:57,920
was just talking about you or

2244
01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:59,760
think about somebody they would phone me

2245
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,880
it was happening all the time and i

2246
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:01,760
finally

2247
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:03,920
realized that i had telepathy but i

2248
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,520
didn't put it in conjunction with the

2249
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:07,520
fact that i was writing my first album

2250
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:09,520
which is a telepathic album i'm playing

2251
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,960
in a telepathic level but we'll talk

2252
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:12,239
about later later

2253
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:14,320
and it was all connected it wasn't it

2254
01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:15,360
was actually art bell's

2255
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:17,840
assistant at the time who she she wanted

2256
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:19,120
to have me on the show and she was

2257
01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:20,320
asking all these questions

2258
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,600
and all of a sudden i put together

2259
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,440
realizing my telepathy was it was

2260
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,400
developing

2261
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:26,480
or spiking while i was making this album

2262
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:27,920
i didn't even think about it until she

2263
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:28,560
brought it up

2264
01:29:32,149 --> 01:29:30,960
yeah very interesting anyway yeah and

2265
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:32,159
we're going to take a break

2266
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:35,679
i'll tell you something interesting uh

2267
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,040
i got an email uh from

2268
01:29:43,750 --> 01:29:41,760
you this is a couple of years ago and

2269
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:43,760
and you were on my mind and i went and

2270
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:45,679
listened to some of your stuff

2271
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:48,400
and later on that day so your email

2272
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:49,600
comes in out of the blue

2273
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:53,360
right okay okay and uh and then jennifer

2274
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:54,239
batten

2275
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:57,520
uh texted me and

2276
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:01,600
she said uh check out my new uh

2277
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:05,040
uh neck illusion yes yes yes yes yes

2278
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:07,760
right so i said okay all right i'll

2279
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:09,199
check it out she goes i was thinking of

2280
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:09,920
you and

2281
01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,880
you know whatever so i go and i click

2282
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,639
because it was like some e.t

2283
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:16,400
thing you know her design it was really

2284
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:18,239
cool and i go and i click

2285
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:20,159
and there it is featured artist kevin

2286
01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:21,760
estrella right

2287
01:30:26,310 --> 01:30:24,480
there right on the screen and i'm there

2288
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:26,320
because of jennifer batten

2289
01:30:30,070 --> 01:30:28,560
and i'm like kevin what a weird

2290
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:30,080
synchronicity what were the

2291
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,600
odds of that happening like within five

2292
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:34,880
minutes of each other

2293
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:36,880
it was a trip man i know that you can't

2294
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,280
ignore it you can't ignore that stuff

2295
01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:41,360
you can't ignore it let's take our break

2296
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,400
right here you can't

2297
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:44,560
no you can't you just can't do it

2298
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:46,639
tonight night three

2299
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,920
no you can't night three of ufo week

2300
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:51,360
here on fade to black our guest tonight

2301
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:52,320
kevin estrella

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01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:55,199
of pyramids on mars all of kevin's links

2303
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:57,600
are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,520
more with kevin and some ufos and

2305
01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:01,199
guitars when we come back after this

2306
01:31:03,530 --> 01:31:02,000
short break stay

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01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:03,540
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01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:17,270
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2357
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:23,840
jimmy church on the game changer network

2358
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:26,400
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2359
01:33:30,629 --> 01:33:27,440
jimmy church

2360
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:30,639
this is revolution the revolution will

2361
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:31,920
not be televised

2362
01:33:39,150 --> 01:33:35,440
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2363
01:33:39,160 --> 01:34:17,990
[Music]

2364
01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:20,629
welcome back bay to black i'm here with

2365
01:34:23,189 --> 01:34:22,320
jimmy church on the game changer network

2366
01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:23,199
and kg r

2367
01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:25,679
a the planet ufo week here on fade to

2368
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:27,040
black tonight

2369
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:30,159
kevin estrella guitars for pyramids on

2370
01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:31,520
mars

2371
01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:34,000
and uh kevin you like that uh you like

2372
01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:35,040
that bumper music

2373
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:38,719
is that

2374
01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:41,920
that's me really no

2375
01:34:53,590 --> 01:34:52,149
uh that's doug that's doug aldridge

2376
01:34:55,510 --> 01:34:53,600
i'll tell you i'll tell you the funny

2377
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:55,520
thing about that record though

2378
01:35:02,149 --> 01:34:58,719
all right the tones are incredible

2379
01:35:05,669 --> 01:35:02,159
the the drums and the way it's recorded

2380
01:35:09,510 --> 01:35:05,679
and and the guitar it's just magic

2381
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:09,520
but are you ready we recorded it

2382
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:16,070
straight up man straight up the amps

2383
01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:17,760
were in doug's closet

2384
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:21,520
man underneath his clothes uh hanging

2385
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:24,560
uh the drums were set up at the foot of

2386
01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:28,000
doug's bed no no i'm not making this

2387
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:33,109
yeah done in the bedroom but the thing

2388
01:35:36,950 --> 01:35:34,960
is if the songs are right they're right

2389
01:35:39,669 --> 01:35:36,960
and if you take the time to mic

2390
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:39,679
and and get tones and and do it

2391
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:40,480
correctly

2392
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:43,199
um it's it's it's it's about being good

2393
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:44,239
musicians

2394
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,440
you know and and good songs so

2395
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:48,960
yeah well yeah the same thing with pink

2396
01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:50,560
floyd i mean the last two albums were

2397
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:52,480
written on a boathouse

2398
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:54,840
well yeah geez yeah but that's pink

2399
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:56,080
floyd

2400
01:35:59,109 --> 01:35:57,840
yeah they could write they could write

2401
01:36:01,150 --> 01:35:59,119
in an outhouse

2402
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:01,160
and it wouldn't matter

2403
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:03,520
[Laughter]

2404
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:05,760
so true so true but it's always about

2405
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:06,639
the songs

2406
01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:10,239
and and i i do want to talk about that

2407
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:13,600
um let's let's start with this

2408
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:16,480
uh where did the name well it's kind of

2409
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,119
obvious

2410
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:19,679
but i want your your story behind this

2411
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:21,199
pyramids on mars where

2412
01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:24,480
where'd the name come from actually the

2413
01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:26,719
name came from um i book marked that

2414
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:27,119
name

2415
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,320
uh from believe it or not it was um uh

2416
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:32,400
one of my favorite drummers uh virgil

2417
01:36:36,629 --> 01:36:33,920
donnati oh yeah

2418
01:36:37,669 --> 01:36:36,639
uh he played play with uh planet x you

2419
01:36:41,030 --> 01:36:37,679
know and uh

2420
01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:41,040
amazing player and so it was his uh solo

2421
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,199
album uh serious young insects

2422
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:45,520
the third song on that on that is the

2423
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:47,600
song pyramids on mars

2424
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,800
and um i just i love that album and i

2425
01:36:54,390 --> 01:36:52,480
bookmarked that name i said that's what

2426
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:54,400
i want my solo project to be called as

2427
01:36:58,229 --> 01:36:56,159
pyramids on mars

2428
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:58,239
so but it was also had to do with the

2429
01:37:01,830 --> 01:36:59,600
fact that i already knew that there was

2430
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:01,840
pyramids on mars with the dnm pyramids

2431
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:04,000
you know and cydonia in that region

2432
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:06,159
and that was a perfect um catalyst and

2433
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:08,080
image to

2434
01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:10,400
to wake people up basically that this is

2435
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:11,119
real

2436
01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:13,520
that there's a suppressed history here

2437
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:15,520
there's an et history to our planet and

2438
01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:16,159
to mars

2439
01:37:19,750 --> 01:37:18,560
and people need to wake up but also the

2440
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:19,760
power of the pyramid

2441
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:22,880
which is a universal symbol of of you

2442
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:23,360
know

2443
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:26,560
it's egypt

2444
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:28,480
um it's sacred geometry it's like this

2445
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:29,679
is perfect this is

2446
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:32,560
everything all in one and with a mystery

2447
01:37:35,669 --> 01:37:34,320
of pyramids on mars so it was like

2448
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:35,679
perfect name

2449
01:37:41,629 --> 01:37:39,119
did uh did your guitar playing

2450
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:41,639
and songwriting start to change after

2451
01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:48,070
i was in a band for many years and we

2452
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:49,119
wrote as a band

2453
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:51,040
always like you know we would hit the

2454
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:52,880
you know hit the you know ghetto blaster

2455
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:54,800
recorder and we'd start jam with ideas

2456
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:57,280
and we work as a band to write songs

2457
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:58,639
and then after i couldn't do that

2458
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,119
anymore and i i i end up you know

2459
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:03,360
i had to do everything myself out of

2460
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:04,239
necessity

2461
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,239
and i was terrified i was scared i

2462
01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:08,560
didn't know what to do and how to do it

2463
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:11,440
and um and a little bit of encouragement

2464
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:13,040
from my brother you know i got uh

2465
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:15,760
recording software and and drum machines

2466
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:16,480
and you know and

2467
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:18,880
and virtual amplifiers and synthesizers

2468
01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:21,600
and and uh guitar and i started to

2469
01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:25,280
to write songs you know from scratch and

2470
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:27,199
the ideas started to come you know and

2471
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,560
they would come up with a really cool

2472
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:30,719
you know rhythm guitar riff and then you

2473
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:32,400
know the drums would come in next and

2474
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:33,600
the the bass would come in the

2475
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:34,560
synthesizers

2476
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:36,159
and then always the last thing to come

2477
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:37,760
in would be the the lead

2478
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,280
you know the lead melodies and guitar

2479
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:41,360
solos um

2480
01:38:45,830 --> 01:38:43,280
and it started i started to build

2481
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:45,840
develop this process for new songwriting

2482
01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:47,920
and after a while it's like i wasn't

2483
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:49,520
even really writing the songs the songs

2484
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:51,119
are right themselves

2485
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,440
it's just like you know like i just i

2486
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:55,600
just felt like i was behind the

2487
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,600
wheel and the songs were just coming

2488
01:39:00,229 --> 01:38:58,800
together and i was just they were there

2489
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:00,239
was kind of creating themselves

2490
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:02,159
and that actually ended up becoming um

2491
01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:03,920
you know when when grant cameron was

2492
01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:04,639
talking about

2493
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:07,520
song downloads and i was understanding

2494
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:09,199
exactly where he was coming from about

2495
01:39:11,109 --> 01:39:09,520
how

2496
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:11,119
many musicians will you know they don't

2497
01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:12,480
know where the music comes from it comes

2498
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,920
in a dream or whatever

2499
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,840
and the music is just there and i was

2500
01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:17,600
experiencing that already

2501
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,480
you know um but even it even goes

2502
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,239
crazier than that honestly jimmy

2503
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:25,040
there is one song my first song on echo

2504
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,880
cosmic dream division

2505
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:29,520
i didn't write that song that song

2506
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:30,400
literally

2507
01:39:33,910 --> 01:39:33,280
came to me in a dream so i have this

2508
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:33,920
dream

2509
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:36,159
that i'm watching mtv and this guy is

2510
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:38,080
interviewing joe satriani who's sitting

2511
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:38,480
at a

2512
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:40,000
recording console and he says yeah i

2513
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:41,440
heard you work on a new well can you

2514
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,639
play anything for us

2515
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:44,320
oh yeah man we got this dude you know we

2516
01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:45,920
got a couple bed tracks here

2517
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,239
and they start playing this song and i'm

2518
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,719
thinking wow this sounds really cool

2519
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:52,239
god i wish i could write something like

2520
01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:54,639
this wait a second joe never wrote this

2521
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:55,760
song

2522
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:58,400
and so i wake up and i get downstairs i

2523
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:00,239
start tracking out this song

2524
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:03,040
and joe never wrote this song i i it

2525
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:04,480
came to me in a dream it was like it

2526
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:05,760
didn't exist you know

2527
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,280
i didn't even there was no conscious

2528
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:08,960
process whatsoever

2529
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:11,920
literally it came out of the cosmos did

2530
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:12,480
you uh

2531
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:16,080
did you give him a writing credit

2532
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:23,669
oh man well see this is the thing

2533
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:27,360
is that um everybody gets writer's block

2534
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:28,560
and when you're writing

2535
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:31,600
songs sometimes it can get a little bit

2536
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:32,560
terrifying

2537
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,800
where you start to even doubt yourself

2538
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:36,560
as a musician he's like man i can't

2539
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:36,960
write

2540
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:39,360
i can't you know everybody else can

2541
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:40,400
write but me

2542
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:43,920
we all go through that and then when

2543
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,600
the songs do happen

2544
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,400
i think any musician will tell you and

2545
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,159
i've had this conversation

2546
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:54,880
so many times with some of the best uh

2547
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:56,880
out there well they will say dude it's

2548
01:41:01,590 --> 01:41:00,000
it wrote itself it came to it was done

2549
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,600
in five minutes

2550
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:04,080
you know i've spent months on songs that

2551
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:06,560
never got finished and they were crap

2552
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:09,280
but our biggest hit was written you know

2553
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:09,840
in in

2554
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,239
three minutes and we were done and

2555
01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:14,320
that's that's usually how it happens and

2556
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,119
so for you if it starts flowing out

2557
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:19,360
like this coming to you in dreams were

2558
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:20,159
you

2559
01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:24,719
downloads as well

2560
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:27,040
um yes actually i'm glad you brought

2561
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:28,560
that up because

2562
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,920
you know um there was a ponte um who you

2563
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:33,280
you know quite well for

2564
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:35,920
sue walker and white otter who i've

2565
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,560
worked with

2566
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,040
for a long time and teeny in particular

2567
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,360
has been teaching me for several years

2568
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:43,920
about how you know that i was already

2569
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:46,000
playing music at a telepathic level and

2570
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:47,840
she was helping me to develop it

2571
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:49,199
and she talked about the edge of the

2572
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:51,040
black which is my

2573
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:53,040
you know my latest album and that

2574
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:54,960
actually is their concept of where the

2575
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:56,320
music comes from

2576
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:58,639
um the same concept of what grant camera

2577
01:42:02,070 --> 01:42:00,000
was talking about you know where you

2578
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:02,080
you you shut down the analytical brain

2579
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:03,600
and you just tap into the collective

2580
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:04,800
consciousness

2581
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:07,040
and these music songs comes tina

2582
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:08,400
explained it from their point of view

2583
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:10,239
that that's exactly what's happening is

2584
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:11,119
that when you

2585
01:42:14,229 --> 01:42:12,880
when you get into a creative state and

2586
01:42:16,149 --> 01:42:14,239
you you you your

2587
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:16,159
brain waves slow down to alpha theta

2588
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:17,520
that's when you're at your highest

2589
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:18,719
telepathic level

2590
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:20,800
and she says go to the edge of the black

2591
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:21,920
of the universe

2592
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:24,560
turn around and play the next song

2593
01:42:27,669 --> 01:42:25,040
that's

2594
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:27,679
that comes to you and what she means by

2595
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:28,080
that

2596
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,840
collective consciousness

2597
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:34,080
and you will be writing the music with

2598
01:42:37,510 --> 01:42:35,119
the

2599
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:37,520
universe it'll flow through you you're

2600
01:42:40,950 --> 01:42:38,480
adding your

2601
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:40,960
emotional interpretation to it and the

2602
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:41,520
music

2603
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,600
will just come you don't have to think

2604
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,280
about it you have to

2605
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,040
for to write the music all you have to

2606
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:48,960
do jimmy is get out of the way

2607
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,960
so how do you go through the process

2608
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,239
though

2609
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:54,719
because that i i i understand getting to

2610
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:55,760
the point

2611
01:43:03,590 --> 01:42:59,760
but now you've got to uh continue

2612
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:03,600
the connection and then get it

2613
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:07,119
recorded you have to archive it somehow

2614
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:09,600
how do you continue the process yeah

2615
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:12,000
um always keep your cell phone next to

2616
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:12,719
you right

2617
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:14,560
and when you come up with a really cool

2618
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:16,000
idea just record it

2619
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:17,840
right there on your phone immediately

2620
01:43:22,229 --> 01:43:19,199
the initial

2621
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:22,239
you so

2622
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,440
i've done that for so many songs in fact

2623
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:26,960
actually i'm working on a brand new

2624
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:28,159
album right now just because of this

2625
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:29,280
whole kobe thing

2626
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:32,480
what happened jimmy was um i

2627
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:35,040
end up writing all this new music

2628
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,560
actually what happened

2629
01:43:39,910 --> 01:43:38,400
is people think i'm crazy but this is

2630
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:39,920
not this is true

2631
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:43,600
um my my gibson les paul is uh detuned

2632
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,199
so the low ds

2633
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:47,280
or the ease drop to a d like like tool

2634
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:49,440
tune and then i drop that down a whole

2635
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:50,000
step

2636
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:52,400
lower to low c and that's how i played

2637
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:54,320
it with my old band shatter instinct

2638
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:56,080
i pick up my guitar one day and i'm

2639
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:57,600
playing and it sounds so

2640
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:59,920
rich and i start all this new music just

2641
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,119
starts writing itself

2642
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,360
all these new songs tons of new songs

2643
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:05,280
and i checked the tuning of the guitar

2644
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,800
and it was like completely tuned down

2645
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:11,040
like it was different tuning and i

2646
01:44:15,590 --> 01:44:13,040
checked out my tuner and it was low

2647
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:15,600
a sharp and like what the heck is going

2648
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,639
on here who

2649
01:44:19,830 --> 01:44:18,400
who messed with my tuning right it took

2650
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:19,840
me two days to figure out what had

2651
01:44:23,350 --> 01:44:20,639
happened

2652
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:23,360
it was grayson one of the pawn t came

2653
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:24,400
over to my place

2654
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:26,800
he re-tuned my les paul he dropped it to

2655
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:27,760
a baritone

2656
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:32,320
tuning right now i r i recorded okay

2657
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:34,239
let me let me stop you right there we'll

2658
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,600
get back to 432.

2659
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:38,159
okay not an issue there okay we'll get

2660
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:39,280
back to that

2661
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:43,199
but who uh you've made these references

2662
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:45,040
but the audience may not know who you

2663
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,719
are talking about

2664
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:49,760
uh the ponte and and

2665
01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:52,239
and what is going on there in uh new

2666
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:53,199
mexico so

2667
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:56,639
uh real quick who are you talking about

2668
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:59,600
the ponte are uh zetas from uh zeta

2669
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:00,719
reticuli two

2670
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:03,840
who reside under the sandia mountains in

2671
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:05,360
albuquerque new mexico

2672
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:08,719
there's uh there's three main um complex

2673
01:45:11,669 --> 01:45:09,040
like

2674
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:11,679
three main bases on the earth where are

2675
01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:13,280
extraterrestrial outputs

2676
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:15,920
one of them is in albuquerque new mexico

2677
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:17,520
under the sandia mountains

2678
01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:20,719
and that's where the ponte uh reside sue

2679
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:21,600
walker and

2680
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:25,280
otter are both professional telepaths um

2681
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:27,360
their leader tilkum made contact with

2682
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,960
them and then and then and

2683
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,719
everything kind of happened from there

2684
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:32,639
so the ponte um

2685
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:34,719
there's a you know they are they're

2686
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,320
actually here to um

2687
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,800
uh prepare us for official first contact

2688
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:40,400
which is next year

2689
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:43,679
in this you know the fall of 2021.

2690
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,199
been working with sue and otter for

2691
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:47,280
years the ponte visit me all the time

2692
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:49,840
i have et visits all the time they've

2693
01:45:52,709 --> 01:45:50,560
given me

2694
01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:52,719
downloads like crazy they've you know

2695
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:53,679
they've actually

2696
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,560
physically enhanced my consciousness and

2697
01:45:59,109 --> 01:45:58,320
they come over here and grayson retuned

2698
01:46:02,070 --> 01:45:59,119
my guitar

2699
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:02,080
okay i'm not making this up okay okay so

2700
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:03,440
let's let's stay on this

2701
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:06,800
i'm right with you so grayson is

2702
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:10,639
one of the ponte he's an e.t

2703
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:13,840
that plays guitar right

2704
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:16,159
he doesn't play guitar but what is this

2705
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,520
guitar radar

2706
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:19,440
radar that's his name radar is the

2707
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:20,560
guitar player

2708
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:23,920
okay and they reside in the sandia

2709
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:24,880
mountains

2710
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:29,360
uh in albuquerque you are in canada

2711
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,880
right yeah so but they are visiting you

2712
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:33,920
in canada now

2713
01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:35,920
when they visit are they is this

2714
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,840
physical or is this

2715
01:46:41,510 --> 01:46:39,760
something interdimensional and and

2716
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:41,520
there's something else happening how do

2717
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:43,840
the visits occur

2718
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,119
well that's a that's another good

2719
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:47,920
question um um they're physical

2720
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:51,600
and sometimes they are um i will wake up

2721
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:52,320
in the morning

2722
01:46:56,550 --> 01:46:54,080
and i will have like my my bed will be

2723
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:56,560
full of sand you know or red dust

2724
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:58,000
that looks more like albuquerque new

2725
01:46:59,669 --> 01:46:59,280
mexico does where they pick me up and

2726
01:47:02,070 --> 01:46:59,679
they

2727
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,080
take me back there i've i think i've

2728
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:03,760
been picked up by these probably 50

2729
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:04,880
times by them

2730
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:07,600
um it's called it gets continuous but i

2731
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:09,520
don't remember anything of what happened

2732
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:11,920
uh but i do i have strange artifacts

2733
01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:13,679
that i found on my bed and i collect all

2734
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:14,480
of it

2735
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,560
but um they they also come here in

2736
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:18,400
physical um i mean um

2737
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:20,159
uh the one time i actually they i was

2738
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:22,480
actually conscious and actually saw them

2739
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:24,960
was a peta he visited me and rita was

2740
01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:25,920
visited by peta

2741
01:47:31,669 --> 01:47:29,119
i know that and um um

2742
01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:31,679
you know peter showed up mike my condo

2743
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:33,199
my reader yeah

2744
01:47:38,629 --> 01:47:36,719
my reader yes oh she she hasn't told me

2745
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:38,639
about this

2746
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:41,440
okay all right there's a conversation

2747
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:43,119
yeah there's the conversation after the

2748
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:44,800
show tonight thank you for that

2749
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:51,030
all right so back to this this is very

2750
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:53,600
interesting so grayson

2751
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:56,880
detuned your les paul

2752
01:48:01,990 --> 01:47:59,840
yeah but what he did though i had to

2753
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:02,000
actually download a frequency generator

2754
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:03,679
to find out what frequency

2755
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:05,280
he tuned my guitar to because it was

2756
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:06,639
like it didn't make any sense in the

2757
01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:07,520
frequency

2758
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:11,360
jimmy he tuned it to 528

2759
01:48:18,149 --> 01:48:14,800
solfeggio frequency 528 hertz

2760
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,159
really yeah

2761
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:20,320
i can't make this up yeah that's that's

2762
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:22,239
that's that's crazy

2763
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:25,360
the um uh when you

2764
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:27,040
really quick we're gonna have to go back

2765
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:28,560
uh to the guitar talk

2766
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,360
everybody just settle down how did you

2767
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:32,000
find out that

2768
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:34,880
it was a 528 so you plug in your tuner

2769
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:37,760
you're using a digital tuner

2770
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:39,679
actually it was uh no it was a frequency

2771
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:40,800
generator so

2772
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:43,040
you actually um you know it'll play a

2773
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:44,320
frequency and then it'll

2774
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,320
label it right so i went back to the

2775
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:48,000
original recording of the song that i

2776
01:48:50,870 --> 01:48:49,040
have recorded

2777
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,880
made sure that my guitar was in tune

2778
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:52,719
with that when i laid down that first

2779
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:54,880
song but i didn't touch the tuning

2780
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,800
and i found out until they matched the

2781
01:49:01,270 --> 01:48:58,400
frequency and then when it came

2782
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:01,280
to 528 hertz i just was like floored

2783
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:02,719
because i knew that that was a

2784
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:05,440
sacred frequency uh a healing frequency

2785
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:06,080
and i was

2786
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:09,119
like oh my god and hey god right

2787
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:11,360
right right right and have you been

2788
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:12,400
using

2789
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:16,239
did you say you're also 432.

2790
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:19,119
yes all my other guitars are at 432. i

2791
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:19,440
have

2792
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:22,480
um uh some cymatic

2793
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:25,440
432 guitar picks i'm holding them up to

2794
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,159
the camera

2795
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:28,480
right there oh from michael lee hill

2796
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,679
yeah man

2797
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,760
michael lee hill that's a that's a

2798
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:32,800
player man

2799
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:35,280
michael can play oh yeah yeah michael

2800
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:36,159
can play

2801
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:39,599
i use uh i use one of the uh

2802
01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:41,840
i've got a lot of tuners but my main one

2803
01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:44,080
i'll hold it up to the camera

2804
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:48,239
i got the classic man uh the boss tu-12

2805
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:52,560
with um with the analog vu

2806
01:49:57,270 --> 01:49:55,360
right and and that's what i prefer it's

2807
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:57,280
got the digital side on it

2808
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:00,560
but i like using the uh uh

2809
01:50:04,070 --> 01:50:03,520
the vu meter that's just the way it is

2810
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:04,080
and

2811
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:13,040
jumping into the 432

2812
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:18,159
world um and i'm going to pick a guitar

2813
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:21,760
and and get it set up for 4 32 and i'm

2814
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:23,760
going to do it and i'm going to take the

2815
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:24,800
plunge

2816
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:28,320
what what i do here is

2817
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,159
certain guitars are a half step down

2818
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,400
right so there are a certain collection

2819
01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:36,960
of guitars that need to be that way like

2820
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:40,000
i have a an eddie van halen uh the black

2821
01:50:44,149 --> 01:50:42,000
and white strat from van halen one

2822
01:50:45,669 --> 01:50:44,159
right with the pickguard yeah so i've

2823
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:45,679
got that that's in

2824
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:48,480
e flat for van halen right okay you know

2825
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:49,360
what i mean

2826
01:50:54,390 --> 01:50:52,560
and then uh other guitars here they're e

2827
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:54,400
flatter they're down a quarter step it

2828
01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:56,000
depends on

2829
01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:58,080
you know what type of music and what

2830
01:51:02,070 --> 01:50:59,599
bands i'm playing with

2831
01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:02,080
you know those guitars and then the rest

2832
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:02,880
of them are

2833
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:06,159
straight a440 right

2834
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,719
and so one of these guitars is probably

2835
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:10,880
going to be one of the 440s

2836
01:51:17,589 --> 01:51:14,560
i am going to uh uh take it and and go

2837
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:17,599
to the 432 world and

2838
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:20,159
and see what that does the thing is uh

2839
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:21,840
for me

2840
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:26,320
is that means you're not able to play

2841
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,360
with music right

2842
01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:32,000
you're you're in your own 432 world

2843
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:32,960
you're in your own

2844
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:36,159
tuning world you can't go and

2845
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,960
right true enough yeah like you can't go

2846
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:40,400
and go play with other musicians

2847
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,520
because you know because they'll be

2848
01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:43,440
tuned to 440. that's right so

2849
01:51:49,550 --> 01:51:46,880
yeah you're in the 432 world but

2850
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:49,560
uh back to grayson so he gets you to

2851
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:51,280
528.

2852
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:54,960
what was uh what was the feel of the

2853
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:55,440
music

2854
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,760
you know it's e.t it's extraterrestrial

2855
01:52:02,149 --> 01:51:58,880
tuning dude

2856
01:52:04,470 --> 01:52:02,159
right what was the feeling

2857
01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,480
huge difference between four three two

2858
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,239
yeah it's it's totally different

2859
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:09,040
um um i can't explain to it it's just

2860
01:52:13,750 --> 01:52:10,800
this beautiful feeling

2861
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:13,760
um the a is actually like the c note is

2862
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:15,199
528 hertz

2863
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:18,239
right the a note is four four four okay

2864
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:19,920
they fall into the same scale

2865
01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:22,560
so the a is four four four as compared

2866
01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:23,440
to 432

2867
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:25,840
not 440. right there is a difference you

2868
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:27,599
do feel the difference

2869
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:30,960
um it's it's um it just feels

2870
01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:33,199
it feels it just warms your heart does

2871
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:34,000
it i can't

2872
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:36,560
explain it does the instrument itself

2873
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:37,920
vibrate differently

2874
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:41,920
too as well well it did because he tuned

2875
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:44,320
it down so low i mean uh

2876
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:47,599
um you know low c is already is very

2877
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:49,280
low as it was but i had it but then he

2878
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:51,119
turned it down a whole step and a half

2879
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:51,760
to low

2880
01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:54,960
a so it's really tuned low

2881
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:57,440
i actually had to go out and buy almost

2882
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,440
a set of jazz strings

2883
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:01,280
right just so that the intonation would

2884
01:53:04,629 --> 01:53:03,520
stay on with the guitar because it's not

2885
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:04,639
built for that

2886
01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:07,520
so yeah but it does it stays in tune now

2887
01:53:13,669 --> 01:53:09,360
with the heavy gauge

2888
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:13,679
slappy slappy strings

2889
01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:15,280
it could be it could be but with the

2890
01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:17,199
heavy gauge it got rid of that yeah it

2891
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:17,920
tightened it back

2892
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,040
as well now that's uh that's amazing now

2893
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:24,080
so this life of contact now

2894
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,320
uh since 2014 and and having grayson and

2895
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:30,400
radar and the crew

2896
01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:33,679
um hanging out with you um and i i love

2897
01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:35,360
this edge of the universe

2898
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:38,800
uh you know um

2899
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:41,599
yeah edge of the black and and this

2900
01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:42,880
adventure

2901
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:46,159
did you end up writing a string of songs

2902
01:53:52,070 --> 01:53:48,719
right in a row uh with with all of this

2903
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:53,830
um pretty much actually what happened

2904
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,280
with this year was

2905
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,960
and this is the thing that's gonna that

2906
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,560
i find most amazing

2907
01:54:02,550 --> 01:54:00,400
you know edge of the black was already

2908
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:02,560
was already a telepathic album playing

2909
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:03,199
at a very

2910
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:05,920
high telepathic level right um and there

2911
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:08,080
was there's also there's actually also

2912
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,400
tonal language in that album but i'll

2913
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:12,000
get into that story later

2914
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:13,679
um tonal language of the whales that

2915
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:15,040
they had taught me is actually

2916
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:16,880
incorporated into two of those songs in

2917
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:18,480
that album

2918
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:20,800
this is this gets crazy but anyway so

2919
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:22,000
the tuning with the

2920
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,920
les paul end up writing a whole bunch of

2921
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:25,760
new music with it this year

2922
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:28,400
the thing was jimmy um i've already

2923
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:30,560
recorded four of the songs

2924
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:34,639
the songs were recorded in one take

2925
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,719
i hit the record button on my phone i

2926
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:38,719
pick up my guitar i wrote the song

2927
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:42,560
in one take i did not have to change the

2928
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:43,199
structure

2929
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:46,000
at all the song came perfectly all

2930
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,440
together

2931
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:49,599
the first choruses does the changes it

2932
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:50,639
was just flew

2933
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:53,119
it just flowed and i i went back and

2934
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,400
realized i didn't have to change a thing

2935
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:55,679
i just have to learn it

2936
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,440
i learned the songs the way they were

2937
01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:59,360
recorded on the very first take

2938
01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:01,520
now you know that's nearly impossible

2939
01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:03,119
and there's other musicians that are

2940
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:04,880
listening to this right now that are

2941
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,280
either

2942
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:07,599
pissed off that you were able to do that

2943
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,520
or they're calling bs

2944
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:11,280
that's the most difficult thing to do

2945
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:12,639
right and

2946
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,960
wait till you hear my next album wait

2947
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,320
till you hear it

2948
01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:18,880
well if you like tool oh man yeah okay

2949
01:55:21,669 --> 01:55:19,599
well

2950
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:21,679
let's stay right here for a second uh

2951
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:22,719
before the break

2952
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:26,719
um the the titles of the songs now i'm

2953
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,639
assuming

2954
01:55:32,709 --> 01:55:30,320
i don't want to get ahead of our skis

2955
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,719
here but i'm assuming

2956
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:35,840
that you are

2957
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:39,040
um giving credit

2958
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:42,239
to all of this magic happening

2959
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:45,679
to extraterrestrials right oh yes

2960
01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:48,880
now and uh which which

2961
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:52,400
which i'm fully fully buying okay

2962
01:55:59,030 --> 01:55:55,599
i'm sold but what about the titles

2963
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:59,040
of the songs i understand the music side

2964
01:56:02,070 --> 01:55:59,520
of it

2965
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:02,080
but now you've got to name these songs

2966
01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:03,199
did these songs

2967
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:06,320
come with the download did you get

2968
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:08,639
did you get an extra text file at the

2969
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:10,800
end right

2970
01:56:14,690 --> 01:56:12,840
like metadata yeah do you get some

2971
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,700
metadata

2972
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,480
[Laughter]

2973
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,239
you get it you get what i'm saying

2974
01:56:22,229 --> 01:56:19,679
you're funny yeah i know i didn't

2975
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:22,239
get it yet yeah actually the songs came

2976
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:23,199
and then um

2977
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:25,360
i i the titles came afterwards it's just

2978
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:27,119
like i don't think about it

2979
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:29,119
i just let it come i just know it'll say

2980
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:30,880
it'll say and i just know what the song

2981
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:31,440
what the

2982
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:33,520
song title is i don't i try not i try to

2983
01:56:36,870 --> 01:56:35,040
get out of the way and let the universe

2984
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:36,880
just tell me what it is

2985
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:39,280
and so you know one song is you know

2986
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:40,719
it's very rush influenced

2987
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:43,119
sounds like rush and the song is called

2988
01:56:49,270 --> 01:56:45,840
on dragon's wings

2989
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:49,280
another song i wrote is called

2990
01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:53,040
flaly which was named after

2991
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:55,599
this extraterrestrial arcturian woman

2992
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:56,560
who visited me

2993
01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:59,040
about two or three months ago i named

2994
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:00,880
the song after her

2995
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:03,760
so that song came and then this other

2996
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:04,159
song

2997
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:06,080
which i'm working on right now is

2998
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:08,159
actually part two

2999
01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:11,440
of my secret space program um

3000
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:13,040
influence because i have friends who are

3001
01:57:16,950 --> 01:57:14,880
part of the ssp

3002
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,960
and um i've learned a lot about that

3003
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:18,960
stuff so i wrote a song on my album uh

3004
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:20,320
called naf waffen

3005
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:22,880
that's on edge of the black uh which you

3006
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:24,080
know is about the uh

3007
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:26,239
the the german um you know the german

3008
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,360
fleet up there

3009
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,599
right the secret space program and the

3010
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:31,599
next song that i wrote on this album is

3011
01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:32,080
called

3012
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:35,119
left panzer which uh translated is air

3013
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:35,840
tanks

3014
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:38,639
right the hana boos right the hana booze

3015
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:40,880
this song is about the hana boos

3016
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:45,360
the um uh the album did you ever go back

3017
01:57:48,709 --> 01:57:46,639
uh we're going to take a break right

3018
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:48,719
here um

3019
01:57:54,950 --> 01:57:51,840
steve vi's album alien love secrets

3020
01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:54,960
right and now i've i it's such a great

3021
01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:57,760
every song on that record oh by the way

3022
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:58,320
chris

3023
01:58:02,149 --> 01:58:00,880
frazier the drummer on that album with

3024
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,159
steve i

3025
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,080
is the drummer on the tracks that you're

3026
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:06,000
listening to in our bumper music that's

3027
01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:09,440
chris frazier that was those were his

3028
01:58:14,870 --> 01:58:11,679
drums set up at the foot of the bed

3029
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:14,880
um but anyway that that album uh

3030
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:18,080
did that did you end up doing a double

3031
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:18,560
take

3032
01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:21,840
back at vi just like dude

3033
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:24,239
you're channeling this stuff right you

3034
01:58:28,070 --> 01:58:24,960
are you

3035
01:58:32,390 --> 01:58:28,080
you are alien because i did did did you

3036
01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:35,430
i think that um he was really um

3037
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:37,280
he was coming out of the closet at that

3038
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point because i know he knows a lot more

3039
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than what he says publicly

3040
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right and that was his way of kind of

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secretly saying

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wake up people this is what it's about

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so i know there was a secret in that

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album

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yeah there's there's there's something

3046
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about he he's not of this earth

3047
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:55,440
he's just he's just visiting right i'm

3048
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serious too

3049
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yeah i'm serious and there are so many

3050
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musicians out there

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uh that that are just like him

3052
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you know that that are very very special

3053
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but i think that

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when you step outside of the box and you

3055
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go to the extreme and you find yourself

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it's it's coming from

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somewhere else right it's not it's not

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of this earth

3059
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it's coming they have the ability just

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like yourself

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to connect to something else and

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and uh and figure out a way to

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to translate that magic into

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songs music poetry painting

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you know what i mean but they they have

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the ability

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to have that connection with their

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brains

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yeah you know i totally understand it

3070
01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,480
yeah i get it too

3071
01:59:52,149 --> 01:59:50,159
i finally i'm starting to understand it

3072
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:52,159
and so you know i've i love steve vai

3073
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:52,719
and i've

3074
01:59:55,830 --> 01:59:53,920
recruited i've recorded some stuff

3075
01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:55,840
afterwards i listened back and said

3076
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:57,440
god that sounds like something steve i

3077
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:59,119
would play like why is that happening

3078
02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:00,560
i'm not that influenced by steve

3079
02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:02,560
i love him but it sneaks in every once

3080
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in a while i hear

3081
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steve vi come through my playing um but

3082
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you know he's um

3083
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he's he definitely is channeled into the

3084
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the higher consciousness

3085
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absolutely no doubt he said oh she's so

3086
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amazing yeah

3087
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:16,639
yeah yeah frank zappa did the same thing

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let's take a break right here this is

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fade to black our guest tonight kevin

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estrella

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guitarist for pyramids on mars

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we're talking e.t guitar music contact

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ufos all that fun stuff

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more with kevin after this short break

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night night three of our ufo week here

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on fade to black

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tonight kevin estrella guitarist for

3220
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:09,520
pyramids on mars

3221
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:11,920
and uh talking a little guitar little

3222
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:14,239
music little ufo little contact

3223
02:06:17,990 --> 02:06:16,079
now let's get back to this contact

3224
02:06:20,069 --> 02:06:18,000
you've had a lot of it

3225
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:20,079
you were just saying uh before the break

3226
02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:21,760
and we just kind of blew right through

3227
02:06:24,069 --> 02:06:22,079
it

3228
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:24,079
but you said you know i've had you know

3229
02:06:27,910 --> 02:06:25,360
i've had uh uh

3230
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:27,920
downloads and they've visited me like 50

3231
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:28,960
times and i've had

3232
02:06:32,229 --> 02:06:31,199
anything you know and and physical and

3233
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:32,239
we just kind of blew

3234
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,560
all through that let's let's let's get

3235
02:06:39,910 --> 02:06:36,000
back to it

3236
02:06:41,189 --> 02:06:39,920
when you say um 50 downloads what are

3237
02:06:44,149 --> 02:06:41,199
you getting downloads of

3238
02:06:46,069 --> 02:06:44,159
obviously music but but what else is is

3239
02:06:49,589 --> 02:06:46,079
is coming to you

3240
02:06:51,270 --> 02:06:49,599
oh man um they've given like i've i know

3241
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:51,280
when they've given me a download because

3242
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:53,440
the symptoms are always the same

3243
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,639
um you know i will go to work and then

3244
02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:58,400
by about

3245
02:07:01,669 --> 02:07:00,079
um noonish i'm starting to feel really

3246
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sluggish but then by about one or two

3247
02:07:04,629 --> 02:07:02,719
o'clock

3248
02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:04,639
my head feels completely like heavy

3249
02:07:10,229 --> 02:07:07,040
soggy cotton and i can't even stay

3250
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:10,239
conscious um it's my head so heavy

3251
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:12,800
and um and i'll end up falling asleep at

3252
02:07:17,270 --> 02:07:15,199
my desk i can't i have no control of it

3253
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:17,280
and uh sue said you know you've gotten

3254
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:18,719
to download go home

3255
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:21,360
and uh and we're asked so i'll get home

3256
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:22,800
and i won't even get to my bed i'll just

3257
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:24,000
line the couch and it's

3258
02:07:29,109 --> 02:07:27,199
it feels like a reboot it's not even

3259
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:29,119
like sleep it feels like a reboot where

3260
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:30,960
you just go into deep consciousness

3261
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:32,159
you're gone

3262
02:07:36,149 --> 02:07:34,079
and you are basically your brain's

3263
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:36,159
rebuilding itself

3264
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:39,520
a lot of the downloads i was not

3265
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:40,079
conscious

3266
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:42,560
of that would come later on the biggest

3267
02:07:46,629 --> 02:07:43,599
one though jimmy was

3268
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:46,639
um two years ago um there was someone

3269
02:07:51,589 --> 02:07:47,840
new to the base her name is

3270
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:51,599
thira and her specialty is in the

3271
02:07:56,870 --> 02:07:54,880
tonal language of the cetaceans of the

3272
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:56,880
whales and the dolphins

3273
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:58,560
and you have to understand that the

3274
02:08:03,589 --> 02:08:00,560
whales and dolphins speak a

3275
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:03,599
complex telepathic language that that

3276
02:08:10,790 --> 02:08:07,119
tells stories it's three-dimensional and

3277
02:08:13,589 --> 02:08:10,800
i asked can you teach me this

3278
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:13,599
and she said yes and so it was about two

3279
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:14,880
years ago was back in

3280
02:08:20,629 --> 02:08:18,560
april and i i got this massive download

3281
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:20,639
and it took me three days to recover

3282
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:21,679
from it i was

3283
02:08:25,589 --> 02:08:24,480
just gone it was like oh my god what

3284
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:25,599
happened

3285
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:28,000
three days of sleeping of grogginess of

3286
02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:28,960
just crazy

3287
02:08:33,109 --> 02:08:30,800
and i contacted sue and i said what

3288
02:08:36,310 --> 02:08:33,119
happened what was that then tina came on

3289
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:36,320
and she said well you wanted the um the

3290
02:08:40,470 --> 02:08:37,679
tonal language

3291
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:40,480
uh we gave you the beginner's course i

3292
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:42,239
was like

3293
02:08:47,589 --> 02:08:45,360
oh my god it felt honestly i felt like

3294
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:47,599
i could see this image of radar trying

3295
02:08:52,950 --> 02:08:51,119
to stuff a whale's brain into my head

3296
02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,960
and so they um they gave the

3297
02:08:55,830 --> 02:08:54,639
instructions in regards to how to

3298
02:08:58,870 --> 02:08:55,840
basically unzip

3299
02:09:02,390 --> 02:08:58,880
this this download

3300
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:02,400
of tonal language um and so i

3301
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did the protocols over the summer as i

3302
02:09:07,830 --> 02:09:05,760
could um

3303
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:07,840
you know basically they said go down to

3304
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uh lake ontario with your guitar

3305
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:12,320
and when the sun's setting and as as the

3306
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elements are mixing with the fire of the

3307
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:16,159
sky and the water and that

3308
02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,639
let the music play and let it come and

3309
02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:20,400
listen to the ripple effects of your of

3310
02:09:23,030 --> 02:09:22,000
the notes that you're playing the length

3311
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:23,040
of the notes

3312
02:09:26,229 --> 02:09:24,800
and and what you're playing and become

3313
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:26,239
very conscious of it

3314
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:29,599
so long and short of it was um

3315
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,000
it was near christmas and um i was

3316
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:34,320
working on this song naf waffen

3317
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:36,079
and i needed this uh because my music's

3318
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,599
all instrumental i needed

3319
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:40,320
a good melody line for the main the main

3320
02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:41,440
melody

3321
02:09:45,189 --> 02:09:44,880
and i felt like something was coming to

3322
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:45,199
me

3323
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:52,320
this

3324
02:10:01,270 --> 02:09:58,639
phasing and it's very it's not it's not

3325
02:10:01,669 --> 02:10:01,280
quite you know the the bending of notes

3326
02:10:03,430 --> 02:10:01,679
are not

3327
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:03,440
full a full note it's kind of like

3328
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:05,920
halfway you know kind of like steve vice

3329
02:10:12,830 --> 02:10:08,400
you know strange tune guitars and so i

3330
02:10:17,510 --> 02:10:14,470
song and then

3331
02:10:19,430 --> 02:10:17,520
20 minutes after i recorded the the demo

3332
02:10:20,629 --> 02:10:19,440
i got a message from sue and she said

3333
02:10:23,669 --> 02:10:20,639
kevin i was

3334
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:23,679
just contacted by teeny and thera

3335
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:25,599
they telepathically heard you playing

3336
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:27,520
your guitar

3337
02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:30,480
you know 2 000 miles away and you

3338
02:10:34,229 --> 02:10:31,280
accessed

3339
02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:34,239
the tonal language the ripple the length

3340
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:35,599
of notes

3341
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:37,920
you you access the tonal language

3342
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:39,040
download

3343
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:42,719
i'm like what and and and i was just

3344
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:43,679
amazed

3345
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,560
so i i recorded the song finally get the

3346
02:10:50,229 --> 02:10:48,560
the final song mixed and mastered

3347
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:50,239
and it was christmas eve and this is the

3348
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:51,920
best christmas present i ever got

3349
02:10:55,589 --> 02:10:55,199
i was listening to the song and after

3350
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:55,599
the

3351
02:11:02,870 --> 02:10:59,520
sixth listen i heard a translation

3352
02:11:06,390 --> 02:11:02,880
i was saying do you

3353
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:06,400
hear me i was speaking

3354
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:08,480
in a tonal language the music was

3355
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:10,079
actually saying words it was saying

3356
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,800
do you hear me and i stood up and i

3357
02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:14,719
screamed oh my god i'm saying do you

3358
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:15,760
hear me

3359
02:11:20,470 --> 02:11:18,800
and then i i sat back down put my head

3360
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:20,480
on my lap and i just cried for 20

3361
02:11:23,189 --> 02:11:21,840
minutes

3362
02:11:25,109 --> 02:11:23,199
it was the most incredible thing ever

3363
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:25,119
happened to me in my entire life

3364
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:27,280
yeah i couldn't believe it i couldn't

3365
02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:28,960
believe it like i heard a translation i

3366
02:11:31,750 --> 02:11:30,239
don't know how i knew it i knew with

3367
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:31,760
absolute certainty that i was actually

3368
02:11:34,069 --> 02:11:33,440
saying something in that melody it was

3369
02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:34,079
saying do

3370
02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:36,880
you hear me now when you uh hear the

3371
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:38,639
track do you hear the words

3372
02:11:42,709 --> 02:11:41,280
right no you don't hear the words

3373
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,719
there's no words it's it's

3374
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:44,320
not it's a tonal language that's what

3375
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:46,159
i'm saying um

3376
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:49,360
so but when you hear that melody

3377
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:52,480
in the track do you remember

3378
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:55,840
the words yes i do yeah yeah oh yeah i

3379
02:11:58,229 --> 02:11:56,239
do

3380
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:58,239
yeah that is because when you listen to

3381
02:12:01,030 --> 02:12:00,239
it it's like it it's when you listen to

3382
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,040
the song

3383
02:12:05,510 --> 02:12:03,599
it's very slow at first it's calm it's

3384
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:05,520
it's kind of like not really distorted

3385
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:07,360
and it slowly builds up and gets more

3386
02:12:09,750 --> 02:12:08,960
intense more intense and then it really

3387
02:12:12,550 --> 02:12:09,760
kicks in with

3388
02:12:13,669 --> 02:12:12,560
this with the distortion and the wah and

3389
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,679
it's like do you

3390
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:15,679
hear me it's getting louder and louder

3391
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:17,119
and louder and louder like

3392
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:20,560
do you hear me do you hear me

3393
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:23,440
do you hear me it's like it's like i

3394
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:24,320
didn't realize it

3395
02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:25,840
when i was writing it i had no idea what

3396
02:12:30,709 --> 02:12:27,440
i was doing no idea

3397
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:30,719
i i i texted sue and i said oh my god

3398
02:12:34,069 --> 02:12:32,719
there's a translation i said do you hear

3399
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:34,079
me that's what i'm saying

3400
02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:36,560
and then sue responded back she says i'm

3401
02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:37,760
hearing cheering

3402
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:40,159
coming from the from the mountain they

3403
02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:41,760
said they're you're correct and they're

3404
02:12:44,790 --> 02:12:42,800
sending the

3405
02:12:46,709 --> 02:12:44,800
the message back to the aquatic stations

3406
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:46,719
over in new zealand

3407
02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:49,920
so i was right the

3408
02:12:58,310 --> 02:12:55,040
right the um the downloads do they ever

3409
02:13:01,430 --> 02:12:58,320
uh include technical things uh

3410
02:13:02,870 --> 02:13:01,440
you know math languages alphabet symbols

3411
02:13:06,310 --> 02:13:02,880
do you get that as well

3412
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:06,320
for me no no nothing like that

3413
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:08,000
um it's it's more i think it's more

3414
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:10,320
subconscious

3415
02:13:13,990 --> 02:13:12,159
i don't know how these things come or

3416
02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:14,000
when when the downloads actually unzip

3417
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:15,520
themselves naturally

3418
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:17,040
and i'm sure there's a lot more

3419
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:18,880
information that's going to come to me

3420
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:20,239
when it's supposed to come

3421
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:21,679
because i've had memories of

3422
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:23,440
conversations with uh

3423
02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:25,360
you know with uh druti that um

3424
02:13:28,550 --> 02:13:27,040
afterwards i was thinking

3425
02:13:29,990 --> 02:13:28,560
i remember this conversation this

3426
02:13:32,629 --> 02:13:30,000
conversation take place and she'll

3427
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:32,639
confirm yes the conversation took place

3428
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:34,239
so it's like why am i getting why is it

3429
02:13:37,910 --> 02:13:35,840
unzipping now so

3430
02:13:39,430 --> 02:13:37,920
things will happen naturally and i've

3431
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:39,440
also had some other things happen to me

3432
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,280
more recently

3433
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:44,400
where i've accessed new abilities

3434
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,480
and i didn't know how to do them i did

3435
02:13:49,430 --> 02:13:47,520
them by accident

3436
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:49,440
and i realized oh my god i must have

3437
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:51,280
accessed another download

3438
02:13:54,470 --> 02:13:52,960
because this has never happened to me in

3439
02:13:57,189 --> 02:13:54,480
47 years

3440
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:57,199
so i've i'm learning more things and

3441
02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:58,719
more and more things have happened to me

3442
02:14:02,629 --> 02:14:00,159
i don't know how i did them

3443
02:14:04,629 --> 02:14:02,639
and now i'm trying to relearn it

3444
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:04,639
consciously as to how i did these things

3445
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,159
to make them happen

3446
02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:08,480
so there's a huge world out there of you

3447
02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:09,840
know of you know breaking out of the

3448
02:14:13,830 --> 02:14:10,639
matrix

3449
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:13,840
people have no idea about um my god

3450
02:14:20,069 --> 02:14:17,360
this this this whole conscious universe

3451
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:20,079
is more beautiful and more crazy and

3452
02:14:24,069 --> 02:14:22,320
amazing than you can even

3453
02:14:26,149 --> 02:14:24,079
imagine you cannot even imagine how

3454
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:26,159
beautiful it is now what about

3455
02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:29,119
um and and staying with this about these

3456
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:30,400
downloads

3457
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:34,079
uh going back to uh neck illusions

3458
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:37,440
um and and your designs

3459
02:14:44,149 --> 02:14:41,280
uh for them uh your

3460
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:44,159
designs and if i'm saying it the wrong

3461
02:14:48,950 --> 02:14:45,760
way just tell me

3462
02:14:52,830 --> 02:14:48,960
but yours are about

3463
02:14:55,669 --> 02:14:52,840
alien dna right basically

3464
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:55,679
um i called it the i called it the alien

3465
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,400
dna but

3466
02:15:00,709 --> 02:14:58,560
actually what what it is it's actually

3467
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:00,719
that it's a dna double helix

3468
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:03,599
uh the design of my guitars was actually

3469
02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:06,079
a crop circle that formed in wiltshire

3470
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:08,079
england in 1997.

3471
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:11,199
um but what happened was that i had this

3472
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:12,079
dream

3473
02:15:16,310 --> 02:15:14,079
where i'm standing in my backyard of my

3474
02:15:17,830 --> 02:15:16,320
old house and these three grays

3475
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:17,840
you know these three zetas are standing

3476
02:15:20,629 --> 02:15:19,360
there and they're handing me back my joe

3477
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:20,639
satriani

3478
02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:23,840
guitar silver guitar and in the neck

3479
02:15:28,709 --> 02:15:26,960
it has that design but it was green it

3480
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:28,719
had that dna double helix all the way

3481
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,400
through the neck and i was thinking wow

3482
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:32,880
that's a really cool design for a neck

3483
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:34,159
but there's there's you know it's too

3484
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:34,800
bad it's

3485
02:15:38,069 --> 02:15:36,560
too expensive to have an inlay done like

3486
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,079
that like you know because i love

3487
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:40,480
steve vi's original gem guitar with the

3488
02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:42,000
uh you know you know you know the one

3489
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:43,440
with the uh the twirling uh

3490
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:45,520
vine that goes down yeah i've got one

3491
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:47,280
i've got one

3492
02:15:58,149 --> 02:15:54,800
here just hanging on the wall

3493
02:15:58,950 --> 02:15:58,159
this is what uh this is what he's

3494
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,960
talking about

3495
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:00,560
if you guys can see i'm showing it on

3496
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:03,040
the camera see that's the uh

3497
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:06,400
that that gorgeous guitar it is and

3498
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:10,000
um i thought originally that i wouldn't

3499
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:11,920
be able to play it

3500
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:13,360
really you're not supposed to be looking

3501
02:16:18,149 --> 02:16:15,440
at the neck right it's all about feel

3502
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:18,159
but you do like you do like the dots

3503
02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:20,480
once in a while just to glance down

3504
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:22,400
and there's no dots on this neck that's

3505
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:23,599
just an inline

3506
02:16:27,589 --> 02:16:26,400
inlaid vine up and down the neck i'm

3507
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:27,599
showing that on the camera

3508
02:16:32,950 --> 02:16:31,040
okay anyway put this back um how does

3509
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:32,960
that work with um

3510
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:36,000
your alien dna um

3511
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:39,040
uh design neck illusions yeah for neck

3512
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:40,000
illusions

3513
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:42,960
how does that work are they individual

3514
02:16:46,709 --> 02:16:43,920
pieces that

3515
02:16:48,790 --> 02:16:46,719
fit in between the frets and then the

3516
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:48,800
picture of the wood

3517
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:51,760
is part of the decal so you're not

3518
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:53,599
actually seeing the wood anymore it's

3519
02:16:58,150 --> 02:16:55,120
actually covering

3520
02:16:59,750 --> 02:16:58,160
everything between the frets it's

3521
02:17:02,870 --> 02:16:59,760
actually it's a complete uh

3522
02:17:06,070 --> 02:17:02,880
uh yeah decal of the design

3523
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:06,080
so it covers the entire fret um

3524
02:17:09,830 --> 02:17:08,240
yeah it's a it's a very it's a very uh

3525
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:09,840
it's not a sticker it's it's a it's a

3526
02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:11,040
decal that's

3527
02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:14,240
um that that goes over your fretboard

3528
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:15,840
that neck illusions have they have this

3529
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:17,840
you know patent for this thing and uh

3530
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:20,000
it looks amazing no that's what i mean

3531
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:21,920
but it doesn't fade

3532
02:17:28,230 --> 02:17:25,519
they fit in between the frets yes

3533
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,240
right that's right man yep yeah they

3534
02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:30,479
look really really really cool

3535
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:33,599
and and uh for everybody that wants to

3536
02:17:36,309 --> 02:17:34,639
know what i'm talking about you can go

3537
02:17:39,509 --> 02:17:36,319
to neck illusions.com

3538
02:17:41,830 --> 02:17:39,519
and and uh and and go to

3539
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:41,840
i visit their page all the time and i'm

3540
02:17:47,030 --> 02:17:43,760
always looking for

3541
02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:47,040
uh uh cool stuff yours is some of the

3542
02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:47,840
coolest

3543
02:17:51,750 --> 02:17:50,319
jennifer's stuff is really really cool

3544
02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:51,760
too as well

3545
02:17:56,309 --> 02:17:54,399
but device stuff is really yeah steve

3546
02:17:58,629 --> 02:17:56,319
stuff is right there

3547
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:58,639
and uh what's what's really cool about

3548
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:00,000
this is

3549
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:03,040
uh you don't get to really get bragging

3550
02:18:06,429 --> 02:18:03,679
rights

3551
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:06,439
like this too often but you go to neck

3552
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:09,519
illusions.com man and there you are

3553
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:12,160
right there top row front and center

3554
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:13,439
kevin estrella

3555
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:17,679
right now uh above steve

3556
02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:21,439
that's uh i don't know how that happened

3557
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:23,920
don't say anything let's just it'll be

3558
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:24,960
our little secret

3559
02:18:32,150 --> 02:18:28,080
but yeah that's really cool um

3560
02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:32,160
uh so but back to this so

3561
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,280
uh the uh by the way

3562
02:18:38,469 --> 02:18:37,280
a bunch of these artists that are here

3563
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,479
there's a lot of uh

3564
02:18:42,070 --> 02:18:40,559
did you notice a lot of crop circles a

3565
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:42,080
lot of alien

3566
02:18:46,070 --> 02:18:45,200
a lot of e.t influence on this page sure

3567
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,080
did

3568
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:48,800
yeah that's great mrs smith is there you

3569
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:51,439
know she's been on the show before

3570
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:53,439
oh yeah yeah this is smith yeah yeah

3571
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:54,559
she's great

3572
02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:56,800
she's absolutely amazing talk to her a

3573
02:19:01,349 --> 02:18:57,599
lot

3574
02:19:04,309 --> 02:19:01,359
um so back back to this staying on this

3575
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:04,319
when you are getting when you say

3576
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:05,599
they're coming

3577
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:08,960
to visit me and then you've had a

3578
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:12,719
physical experience at your home

3579
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:16,080
uh was it grayson

3580
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:18,639
um yeah grayson's come over he's left

3581
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:19,519
hand prints

3582
02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:22,160
uh on my place i've got pictures of

3583
02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:22,880
those

3584
02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:25,519
i've also had another uh ponte handprint

3585
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:27,120
on my rail

3586
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:30,639
um you know next to my bed one time um

3587
02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:32,479
you know they've moved stuff on me

3588
02:19:36,950 --> 02:19:34,240
several times because i got a

3589
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:36,960
amazing obelisk quartz crystal which i

3590
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:39,439
have sitting in front of my lava lamp

3591
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:41,120
perfect i have i know exactly where it

3592
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,880
is and three times it's been picked up

3593
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:44,960
looked at and put down not quite right

3594
02:19:49,590 --> 02:19:48,080
but you know i've had the ponte visit me

3595
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:49,600
um you know they put their hand on my

3596
02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:52,080
shoulder you know well you know i was

3597
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:53,359
you know i was sleeping i could feel

3598
02:19:58,469 --> 02:19:55,200
their hand and rest on my shoulder

3599
02:20:01,670 --> 02:19:58,479
i have also had other visitations from

3600
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:01,680
other star nations not just the ponte

3601
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:04,720
so um yeah i've been visited by the

3602
02:20:08,950 --> 02:20:05,280
ponte

3603
02:20:13,190 --> 02:20:08,960
i've been visited by um a reptilian

3604
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,200
i was visited by um

3605
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:15,359
i believe well we figured that she is

3606
02:20:19,510 --> 02:20:16,479
arcturian's

3607
02:20:20,550 --> 02:20:19,520
peoples as in she's a blend was she when

3608
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:20,560
you wrote the song

3609
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:23,920
the the one he wrote the song about yes

3610
02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:28,399
yeah and that was was that was physical

3611
02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:29,680
yeah well the thing was like they

3612
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:32,160
visited me in um and they do it in a

3613
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:33,680
lucid dream state

3614
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:35,680
so um what happens is i'll wake up

3615
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:37,040
around four or five o'clock in the

3616
02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:37,920
morning

3617
02:20:42,550 --> 02:20:40,800
and i realize that somebody is visiting

3618
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:42,560
because i could feel a presence but

3619
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,800
so then what i what i do is i is i'm in

3620
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:46,080
the process i'll drop it

3621
02:20:50,230 --> 02:20:49,040
drop consciousness into this lucid state

3622
02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:50,240
but i'm basically

3623
02:20:53,910 --> 02:20:52,399
it's like i'm basically it's like lying

3624
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:53,920
in bed with your eyes open

3625
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:55,840
and you're fully conscious fully aware

3626
02:20:59,830 --> 02:20:56,960
of what's going on

3627
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,840
and then they come visit you and you you

3628
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:01,120
see them you hear them

3629
02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:03,439
you can touch their skin and you can

3630
02:21:06,710 --> 02:21:04,640
feel the temperature

3631
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:06,720
you're it's like being awake but you're

3632
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,160
but you're not you're in this other

3633
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,319
conscious state of elusive state

3634
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:12,399
the other thing is people will say well

3635
02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:13,680
yeah that's [\h__\h] man you're just

3636
02:21:16,790 --> 02:21:15,120
dreaming well no i'm not

3637
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:16,800
because they paralyze me before it

3638
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:18,560
happens

3639
02:21:22,150 --> 02:21:20,880
how does what do you mean oh okay go

3640
02:21:24,630 --> 02:21:22,160
ahead and explain

3641
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:24,640
explain yeah so let's see well for

3642
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:27,200
fellaily when she visited me

3643
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:30,160
so um i wake up and i i drop you know i

3644
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:31,600
try to get back to sleep and i'm just

3645
02:21:34,790 --> 02:21:32,960
about to drop into uh

3646
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:34,800
you know in that lucid state and then i

3647
02:21:38,710 --> 02:21:36,800
do and then i'm

3648
02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:38,720
physically choking on the back of my

3649
02:21:41,910 --> 02:21:40,240
tongue because she paralyzed me all of a

3650
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:41,920
sudden my body just drops

3651
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:44,080
and my body i can't have no control in

3652
02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:46,240
my body and i'm choking on my tongue

3653
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:49,600
like that right and so she um she

3654
02:21:53,830 --> 02:21:52,720
she loosened up the paralysis enough by

3655
02:21:55,510 --> 02:21:53,840
the way people don't get don't get

3656
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,520
concerned about this paralysis it's just

3657
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:57,760
a safety protocol so i don't freak out

3658
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:00,800
so um so then she released it i was

3659
02:22:03,670 --> 02:22:02,560
conscious enough to actually regain

3660
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:03,680
consciousness

3661
02:22:08,150 --> 02:22:06,479
to adjust my neck back so that my tongue

3662
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:08,160
was like you know hanging there so i can

3663
02:22:10,710 --> 02:22:09,200
actually breathe

3664
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:10,720
and then immediately she pulls me right

3665
02:22:14,870 --> 02:22:13,359
back in right back into the dream and

3666
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:14,880
and then i'm basically there she pops up

3667
02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:17,040
and she's talking to me

3668
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:19,040
and and she's really excited to see me

3669
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:21,760
and and um it's like we knew each other

3670
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:23,359
and that was a whole crazy thing it was

3671
02:22:26,950 --> 02:22:24,880
like when she greeted me it was like

3672
02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:26,960
it was like she was like it's me and

3673
02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:28,160
like

3674
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:33,920
obviously there's a lot of

3675
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:36,160
hidden memories of you know of i've been

3676
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:37,200
to places

3677
02:22:40,469 --> 02:22:38,720
you know maybe the ponte have introduced

3678
02:22:41,830 --> 02:22:40,479
me to different people but then they're

3679
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:41,840
they're they're showing up and they're

3680
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:44,000
saying hello and it's like

3681
02:22:48,150 --> 02:22:47,200
wow man but she was amazing looking i

3682
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:48,160
mean she was

3683
02:22:51,590 --> 02:22:50,240
she had you know what you get you know

3684
02:22:55,190 --> 02:22:51,600
um the movie avatar

3685
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:55,200
mm-hmm the navi like with the blue skin

3686
02:23:02,150 --> 02:22:58,399
and the um the um the cat like

3687
02:23:05,750 --> 02:23:02,160
um bioluminescent um amber eyes

3688
02:23:08,870 --> 02:23:05,760
right that's what she looked like

3689
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:08,880
was there was there communication

3690
02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:12,479
oh god yeah well yeah what happened um

3691
02:23:17,510 --> 02:23:15,680
well um you know i like we like we just

3692
02:23:18,469 --> 02:23:17,520
kind of i said i'm so glad you're here

3693
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:18,479
you know i'm

3694
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:20,800
um i'm so you know so honored to have

3695
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:21,680
you here

3696
02:23:25,429 --> 02:23:23,680
and uh how did you find me like um did

3697
02:23:27,030 --> 02:23:25,439
you do you did you

3698
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:27,040
like feel me out or something like that

3699
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:28,640
and then she gave this like

3700
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:32,000
you know girlish laugh like this

3701
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,680
and like and then i got this telepathic

3702
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:35,200
thought from her saying something like

3703
02:23:39,429 --> 02:23:37,200
to extend do you think that all your

3704
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:39,439
your visitations are due to your own

3705
02:23:42,150 --> 02:23:40,319
initiative

3706
02:23:43,429 --> 02:23:42,160
and i'm like huh i didn't really

3707
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:43,439
understand what she said

3708
02:23:46,950 --> 02:23:46,080
the word she meant by that and then she

3709
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:46,960
looks over at my

3710
02:23:50,550 --> 02:23:49,840
my dresser and um there happened to be

3711
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:50,560
like this

3712
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,720
watch that was on my dresser now this is

3713
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:54,720
mind you this is a memory that she found

3714
02:23:57,910 --> 02:23:55,920
inside my head

3715
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:57,920
of this broken watch that i that i know

3716
02:24:02,230 --> 02:24:00,640
i had she finds this broken watch

3717
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:02,240
you know in the state and she picks up

3718
02:24:04,550 --> 02:24:04,080
oh my god is this a watch this is so

3719
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:04,560
cool

3720
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:06,160
and she puts it on and she's playing

3721
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:07,520
with and you know playing with the knobs

3722
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:08,800
and stuff and this broken watch and

3723
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:10,720
she's so fascinated by a births broken

3724
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:11,840
watch

3725
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:13,439
and i said you know what you can keep it

3726
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:15,040
you know it's like

3727
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:16,479
and then they asked her what's your name

3728
02:24:19,830 --> 02:24:18,160
and she said flayley

3729
02:24:21,990 --> 02:24:19,840
and before i had a chance to ask her

3730
02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:22,000
about her people i woke up

3731
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:25,280
but oh my god it was just it was so

3732
02:24:28,870 --> 02:24:25,920
incredible

3733
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:28,880
it was so wild you know she was like in

3734
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:30,800
her early 20s and she had this

3735
02:24:34,309 --> 02:24:32,800
really amazing energy she had this

3736
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:34,319
beautiful smile

3737
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:36,240
and she was just so animated and so

3738
02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:38,240
happy to be there it was just so cool

3739
02:24:42,870 --> 02:24:41,120
now where was the watch did you go to

3740
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:42,880
try to find it

3741
02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:45,439
no i know because i i've lost that watch

3742
02:24:47,830 --> 02:24:46,240
years ago

3743
02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:47,840
so what she did was she accessed a

3744
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:49,680
memory um you know

3745
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:51,760
like peter did the same thing when peta

3746
02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:52,960
visited me

3747
02:24:56,070 --> 02:24:54,160
you know because peter i know peter

3748
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:56,080
visited rita but when peta visited

3749
02:24:59,910 --> 02:24:58,560
me in the physical he did the same thing

3750
02:25:02,309 --> 02:24:59,920
where

3751
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:02,319
he you know when he when he came in he

3752
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:03,760
he paralyzed me he picked

3753
02:25:07,349 --> 02:25:05,920
me up off the couch and held me in his

3754
02:25:10,150 --> 02:25:07,359
arms like a baby

3755
02:25:12,790 --> 02:25:10,160
and then um then he put me down and then

3756
02:25:14,550 --> 02:25:12,800
i'm talking to him and then it was like

3757
02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:14,560
he started changing his appearance it

3758
02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:16,000
was almost like he was like a green

3759
02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:16,800
screen

3760
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,399
and he changed his appearance to look

3761
02:25:22,710 --> 02:25:20,319
like this halloween

3762
02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:22,720
costume this uh stormtrooper halloween

3763
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:24,000
costume that my kids had worn

3764
02:25:28,550 --> 02:25:26,720
both three or four years ago so he

3765
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:28,560
accessed somehow he accessed a memory

3766
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:29,359
inside me

3767
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:31,280
of something pleasant and he started

3768
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,920
changing himself into this stormtrooper

3769
02:25:37,349 --> 02:25:35,359
in front of my very eyes like a green

3770
02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:37,359
screen yeah it was crazy see

3771
02:25:43,190 --> 02:25:41,280
and i want you to uh by the way uh

3772
02:25:44,309 --> 02:25:43,200
can you stay on you want to do some

3773
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:44,319
overtime

3774
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:47,520
oh yeah yeah okay i'm not ready to end

3775
02:25:51,750 --> 02:25:50,960
when you say i want to be very clear for

3776
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:51,760
the audience

3777
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:53,920
when you say he did this right in front

3778
02:25:57,990 --> 02:25:54,880
of me like

3779
02:25:58,790 --> 02:25:58,000
green screen you are saying that he did

3780
02:26:02,790 --> 02:25:58,800
this right

3781
02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:02,800
in front of you like on green screen

3782
02:26:06,710 --> 02:26:05,359
yeah like he was standing in front of me

3783
02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:06,720
you know he was about um

3784
02:26:10,070 --> 02:26:08,640
he was about the same height as my

3785
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:10,080
seven-year-old you know

3786
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:12,000
son at the time right and he looks

3787
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:14,240
exactly like he does on the cover of

3788
02:26:20,070 --> 02:26:17,280
fine e.t he looks exactly like that

3789
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:20,080
you know and i and um and uh then he

3790
02:26:23,590 --> 02:26:21,840
started changing his appearance to

3791
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:23,600
you know to make himself look like he

3792
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:25,200
thought you know that we feel more

3793
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:26,800
comfortable if he looked like a storm

3794
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:28,160
trooper i guess i don't know

3795
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,760
and when you say you're talking about

3796
02:26:34,870 --> 02:26:31,439
star wars

3797
02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:34,880
he's got the

3798
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:38,960
armor on

3799
02:26:45,190 --> 02:26:42,080
yeah yeah pretty much and yeah

3800
02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:45,200
and does he um

3801
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:47,439
uh and i've talked to sue and otter

3802
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:48,800
about this but

3803
02:26:56,230 --> 02:26:52,800
english yes

3804
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:56,240
yes i mean english right he only spoke

3805
02:26:59,349 --> 02:26:57,200
two words to me

3806
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:59,359
and the and they were and i turned him i

3807
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:00,240
said

3808
02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:08,240
yeah and is it really that easy

3809
02:27:12,150 --> 02:27:10,479
because i know sue and otter uh when i

3810
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:12,160
had them on the show and they're they're

3811
02:27:15,910 --> 02:27:12,720
just

3812
02:27:17,590 --> 02:27:15,920
great people but they were they were

3813
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:17,600
stressing with me and i've had other

3814
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:18,720
people on the show too

3815
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,600
that uh um have visited with sue and

3816
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:23,600
otter that it's just

3817
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:26,880
uh it's just about being an honest

3818
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:27,439
person

3819
02:27:32,389 --> 02:27:30,640
and being for real and

3820
02:27:34,389 --> 02:27:32,399
and you are going to make the

3821
02:27:37,830 --> 02:27:34,399
communication if you want to reach out

3822
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:39,990
it well yeah i mean like it's it's

3823
02:27:43,230 --> 02:27:41,600
really you have to prac if you want

3824
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:43,240
telepathy if you want to connect with

3825
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:44,960
extraterrestrials i'm going to give you

3826
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:46,240
the key to the ferrari

3827
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:48,479
you go to official first conflict and

3828
02:27:54,469 --> 02:27:51,280
you download the telepathy 101 primer

3829
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:54,479
it's that simple it's about 256 pages

3830
02:27:57,910 --> 02:27:55,920
mostly just pictures

3831
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:57,920
but it's a very fast read but if you

3832
02:28:01,990 --> 02:28:00,399
work at it do the protocols practice at

3833
02:28:05,670 --> 02:28:02,000
half an hour a day

3834
02:28:08,389 --> 02:28:05,680
for a hundred days you will have contact

3835
02:28:09,429 --> 02:28:08,399
the contact will be at your level of

3836
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:09,439
comfort because when you start

3837
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:11,600
communicating telepathically

3838
02:28:15,190 --> 02:28:13,040
you're communicating at an emotional

3839
02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:15,200
wavelength but it's much deeper than

3840
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:17,280
that it's it's your deep subconscious

3841
02:28:20,870 --> 02:28:18,080
thoughts

3842
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:20,880
of how deep telepathy actually goes so

3843
02:28:25,030 --> 02:28:22,720
you can't hide you can't hide

3844
02:28:25,750 --> 02:28:25,040
in a telepathic with telepathic star

3845
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:25,760
nations

3846
02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:28,160
you know it's it's very transparent and

3847
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:30,080
that's why we need to learn telepathy

3848
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,920
because our human speech really is so

3849
02:28:37,910 --> 02:28:35,439
it doesn't cut it just doesn't cut it

3850
02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:37,920
it's like five five percent of what they

3851
02:28:40,870 --> 02:28:38,479
actually can

3852
02:28:42,469 --> 02:28:40,880
communicate telepathically because

3853
02:28:43,750 --> 02:28:42,479
there's emotions behind it there's

3854
02:28:46,230 --> 02:28:43,760
backstory there's

3855
02:28:47,349 --> 02:28:46,240
everything telepathy is so much more

3856
02:28:50,389 --> 02:28:47,359
advanced

3857
02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:50,399
and you know i i've worked at it myself

3858
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:52,000
and i've had success

3859
02:28:55,190 --> 02:28:53,520
meeting with other star nations because

3860
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:55,200
i've communicated with them

3861
02:28:59,510 --> 02:28:56,640
and they've you know they've they've

3862
02:29:02,309 --> 02:28:59,520
visited me so it's possible

3863
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:02,319
is it is it scary at first kevin and are

3864
02:29:06,070 --> 02:29:03,359
you able to

3865
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:06,080
is there an on off switch right if you

3866
02:29:13,510 --> 02:29:09,920
don't want somebody to be reaching out

3867
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:13,520
and and and entering right

3868
02:29:18,870 --> 02:29:16,080
your soundscape your brain are you able

3869
02:29:22,710 --> 02:29:18,880
to shut it off

3870
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,720
well um when you know when

3871
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:25,680
you are doing you know i i still ask for

3872
02:29:29,429 --> 02:29:27,280
you know for beginners

3873
02:29:30,710 --> 02:29:29,439
it's always good to you know practice

3874
02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:30,720
first with you know other

3875
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:33,600
other people to you know to get feedback

3876
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:35,120
practice telepathy first with

3877
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:36,479
other people who are interested in

3878
02:29:41,110 --> 02:29:38,319
working on telepathy i

3879
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:41,120
suggest working on that when you're

3880
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:42,479
communicating with the collective

3881
02:29:46,230 --> 02:29:44,240
consciousness you need to be you know

3882
02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:46,240
careful with your protocols in regards

3883
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:47,760
to who you want to have

3884
02:29:51,670 --> 02:29:49,840
communication with you know that you

3885
02:29:53,510 --> 02:29:51,680
want to be communicating with someone

3886
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:53,520
who's on the same vibrational length as

3887
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:54,080
you

3888
02:30:05,110 --> 02:30:00,960
know

3889
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:05,120
energy have negative entities

3890
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:07,120
so because there are some out there as

3891
02:30:10,870 --> 02:30:09,040
well i've never ever myself

3892
02:30:12,150 --> 02:30:10,880
ever ever encountered um anything

3893
02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:12,160
negative myself

3894
02:30:15,670 --> 02:30:14,800
um but you know i know people who you

3895
02:30:17,910 --> 02:30:15,680
know

3896
02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:17,920
actually have had not not very nice

3897
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:18,960
experiences

3898
02:30:22,469 --> 02:30:21,040
um but i'm not them so i don't know you

3899
02:30:25,349 --> 02:30:22,479
know what their experiences are

3900
02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:25,359
or who they are or you know you know

3901
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:26,640
fear or whatever

3902
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:30,000
um you know i i lost the uh i don't have

3903
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:30,960
i have no fear

3904
02:30:35,990 --> 02:30:34,240
i lost fear a long time ago that's one

3905
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:36,000
emotion i do not have

3906
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:38,560
so i'm i'm very well protected in my own

3907
02:30:42,469 --> 02:30:39,280
energies

3908
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:42,479
um and i protect myself as well with my

3909
02:30:45,830 --> 02:30:45,040
with my condo i have crystals throughout

3910
02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:45,840
this wither

3911
02:30:49,910 --> 02:30:48,399
through my condo this you know i've i've

3912
02:30:52,070 --> 02:30:49,920
smudged my place

3913
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:52,080
um i've set protocols in regards to

3914
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:53,200
who's allowed in

3915
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:55,920
in my territory so i've set myself up in

3916
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:57,200
a sacred bible

3917
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:58,960
and i also have you know asked for the

3918
02:31:02,790 --> 02:31:00,800
sasquatch to watch over me too

3919
02:31:04,230 --> 02:31:02,800
to be protecting protecting me let's

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guitarist for pyramids on mars

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4013
02:35:36,870 --> 02:35:31,439
am your host jimmy church

4014
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:39,110
this is disturbing okay kevin check this

4015
02:35:42,389 --> 02:35:40,000
out

4016
02:35:43,670 --> 02:35:42,399
on twitter right now i just did a

4017
02:35:46,870 --> 02:35:43,680
retweet

4018
02:35:50,309 --> 02:35:46,880
i have no idea uh mark toronto over in

4019
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:50,319
australia just posted a picture of me

4020
02:35:58,469 --> 02:35:53,600
that i have never seen in my life

4021
02:36:02,070 --> 02:35:58,479
it is me in my bedroom in pasadena

4022
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:02,080
in 1985 and

4023
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:04,960
i have never seen this picture before

4024
02:36:08,469 --> 02:36:06,240
this is disturbing

4025
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:08,479
i who was posting these pictures on the

4026
02:36:14,550 --> 02:36:10,960
web and who took this picture of

4027
02:36:17,670 --> 02:36:14,560
me i have never seen this picture

4028
02:36:21,349 --> 02:36:17,680
and it's weird yeah and it's my old

4029
02:36:24,309 --> 02:36:21,359
strat that i just put

4030
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:24,319
a new neck on the strat neck is off it's

4031
02:36:28,070 --> 02:36:24,720
got an

4032
02:36:31,190 --> 02:36:28,080
explorer hockey stick right uh

4033
02:36:33,590 --> 02:36:31,200
eddie van halen neck on it it's got my

4034
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:33,600
old cutaway pick guard

4035
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:37,840
um one volume knob it's not a locking

4036
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:40,399
nut this is crazy where did you get this

4037
02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:41,600
picture

4038
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:43,439
i have i have no i haven't seen a

4039
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:46,240
picture of this guitar

4040
02:36:54,150 --> 02:36:50,080
in 35 years what the heck man in my

4041
02:36:57,270 --> 02:36:54,160
bedroom where where did you

4042
02:37:00,469 --> 02:36:57,280
tirana where'd you get this picture man

4043
02:37:03,990 --> 02:37:00,479
this is disturbing at every

4044
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:04,000
level this is crazy this is a mandela

4045
02:37:08,870 --> 02:37:06,560
effect you think it could be a mandolin

4046
02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:08,880
i i i don't have any pictures of my

4047
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:11,760
bedroom in pasadena

4048
02:37:18,710 --> 02:37:15,040
i i've never i i don't know i don't

4049
02:37:22,710 --> 02:37:18,720
remember this picture being taken uh

4050
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:22,720
and this particular guitar um

4051
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:25,359
it was only in this state that it's in

4052
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:27,200
here it's before the stripes were on it

4053
02:37:30,950 --> 02:37:28,319
and everything else

4054
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:30,960
this particular it was like this for

4055
02:37:34,870 --> 02:37:31,680
like

4056
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:34,880
two months this is early man this is

4057
02:37:38,710 --> 02:37:35,280
like

4058
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:38,720
85 84 85

4059
02:37:45,190 --> 02:37:42,399
and uh wow

4060
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:45,200
that somebody posted this on the net

4061
02:37:49,230 --> 02:37:46,000
somewhere

4062
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:49,240
who tarana i'm not this is

4063
02:37:56,309 --> 02:37:55,349
i have no idea are you looking at it can

4064
02:37:59,990 --> 02:37:56,319
you see the picture

4065
02:38:01,429 --> 02:38:00,000
are you on twitter um i'm not on twitter

4066
02:38:03,830 --> 02:38:01,439
at the moment because i'm actually on my

4067
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:03,840
on my phone okay okay

4068
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:05,520
all right all right well i've got to

4069
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:06,800
post it up there on twitter for

4070
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:07,840
everybody to go

4071
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:12,160
and check out but that is

4072
02:38:16,870 --> 02:38:15,200
yes that is some ink you see on me too

4073
02:38:18,389 --> 02:38:16,880
yes that's one of my tattoos it's my

4074
02:38:22,870 --> 02:38:18,399
only tattoo

4075
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:22,880
but that is a crazy picture

4076
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:26,640
wow look at that

4077
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:29,359
that is crazy man i missed that guitar

4078
02:38:34,870 --> 02:38:31,280
that's the one that got away

4079
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:34,880
i sold it to a friend of mine and uh

4080
02:38:38,309 --> 02:38:37,120
it was just one of those things i i sold

4081
02:38:41,510 --> 02:38:38,319
it and

4082
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:41,520
and i wish i had that thing back

4083
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:44,880
yep okay so anyway uh

4084
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:47,680
wow tarana i'm not playing around here

4085
02:38:51,830 --> 02:38:48,319
dude

4086
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:51,840
where did you find this picture

4087
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:54,160
search google for image let me see where

4088
02:39:00,630 --> 02:38:56,479
this is popping up

4089
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:00,640
uh no okay it's not

4090
02:39:03,910 --> 02:39:03,040
okay all right well i would like to know

4091
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:03,920
where you found that

4092
02:39:08,469 --> 02:39:06,880
and who posted it but that is uh that is

4093
02:39:10,309 --> 02:39:08,479
some pretty trippy stuff

4094
02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:10,319
it's even trippy that somebody's going

4095
02:39:14,790 --> 02:39:11,680
out there and finding it

4096
02:39:18,630 --> 02:39:14,800
that's even stranger yeah

4097
02:39:19,750 --> 02:39:18,640
that's bizarre okay um uh thank you for

4098
02:39:21,510 --> 02:39:19,760
uh staying over

4099
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:21,520
and and doing some overtime i want to

4100
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:23,680
get back to these uh downloads and this

4101
02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:24,880
contact

4102
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:28,720
so um when you

4103
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:31,520
i i i keep getting back to this physical

4104
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:32,080
element

4105
02:39:38,150 --> 02:39:35,200
of it where um and i understand

4106
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:38,160
a lot of this is is happening with uh an

4107
02:39:42,550 --> 02:39:38,800
astral

4108
02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:42,560
out-of-body experience or uh in a dream

4109
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:45,200
or in meditation and i totally

4110
02:39:48,870 --> 02:39:46,800
understand that it's a different

4111
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:48,880
conversation totally

4112
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:50,800
when we are talking about something

4113
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:52,720
physical going on

4114
02:39:57,110 --> 02:39:55,040
and i want you to be very clear with

4115
02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:57,120
everybody that this was

4116
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:00,160
this was a physical contact

4117
02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:03,520
and did you know that it was about to

4118
02:40:06,950 --> 02:40:04,720
happen

4119
02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:06,960
was there any vibration going on in the

4120
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:09,840
room was there any warning

4121
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:12,240
there was um when i woke up i felt

4122
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:14,560
presence i definitely felt a presence

4123
02:40:18,870 --> 02:40:16,960
and that has happened before um when

4124
02:40:21,269 --> 02:40:18,880
when i've had visitations

4125
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:21,279
um where i wake up and i feel that

4126
02:40:25,910 --> 02:40:23,359
there's somebody there and realizing oh

4127
02:40:27,830 --> 02:40:25,920
somebody wants to visit me and they will

4128
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:27,840
visit they visit in that

4129
02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:29,760
in that lucid dream state but you have

4130
02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:31,200
to understand when you get into that

4131
02:40:34,309 --> 02:40:32,560
lucid dream state and

4132
02:40:35,590 --> 02:40:34,319
you basically you open your eyes up and

4133
02:40:36,150 --> 02:40:35,600
you're basically in the same spot that

4134
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:36,160
you're

4135
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:39,840
in like you know and um

4136
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:42,240
yeah i remember when flaylee was there i

4137
02:40:45,349 --> 02:40:43,520
remember touching the back of her head

4138
02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:45,359
and i remember this she had this kind of

4139
02:40:48,710 --> 02:40:47,040
strange arch at the back because she had

4140
02:40:51,190 --> 02:40:48,720
a very large skull

4141
02:40:52,469 --> 02:40:51,200
like the ponte like very rounded but she

4142
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,479
it was almost like this um

4143
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:54,319
it was kind of like squarish at the back

4144
02:40:58,950 --> 02:40:55,840
of her skull i could feel that

4145
02:41:01,190 --> 02:40:58,960
i remember also touching um her arm and

4146
02:41:03,429 --> 02:41:01,200
she had very coarse hair on her on her

4147
02:41:06,389 --> 02:41:03,439
arms and her skin was cooled was

4148
02:41:07,510 --> 02:41:06,399
was cool to the touch so um you know if

4149
02:41:08,790 --> 02:41:07,520
that's the cool thing about being in a

4150
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:08,800
lucid dream state

4151
02:41:12,550 --> 02:41:10,479
you can actually have your eyes closed

4152
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:12,560
in a lucid dream and you can just use

4153
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:13,760
your touch

4154
02:41:18,710 --> 02:41:16,800
and if you you feel everything you feel

4155
02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:18,720
the temperature you feel the texture you

4156
02:41:22,710 --> 02:41:19,680
feel the

4157
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:22,720
everything you know it's um it's it's

4158
02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:23,520
pretty wild

4159
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:26,880
you can you can do that in these lucid

4160
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:28,399
dream states

4161
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:30,640
um you know i had uh a visit from a

4162
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:31,600
sasquatch

4163
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:34,000
one time in my in my condo or my

4164
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,960
apartment

4165
02:41:38,309 --> 02:41:36,880
and i basically you know the same thing

4166
02:41:41,269 --> 02:41:38,319
happened where i woke up

4167
02:41:42,710 --> 02:41:41,279
and um my brain stem lit up and says

4168
02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:42,720
basically you have a visitor

4169
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:44,720
and so i get myself into that lucid

4170
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:46,560
state and i'm i'm i'm you know lying on

4171
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:47,359
my side

4172
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:50,080
all of a sudden i feel this big large

4173
02:41:53,750 --> 02:41:50,880
arm

4174
02:41:56,150 --> 02:41:53,760
wrap around my you know wrap around me

4175
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:56,160
and it's kind of his hand is just tucked

4176
02:42:03,830 --> 02:41:58,479
underneath my arm there and then i hear

4177
02:42:07,590 --> 02:42:06,309
my whole body vibrated it was so

4178
02:42:10,830 --> 02:42:07,600
freaking low

4179
02:42:15,269 --> 02:42:10,840
i got a hug from a sasquatch the

4180
02:42:18,550 --> 02:42:15,279
uh the presents

4181
02:42:22,070 --> 02:42:18,560
um uh again

4182
02:42:22,790 --> 02:42:22,080
this is fit when you say i want i i just

4183
02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:22,800
want to

4184
02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:25,200
fully understand and stay engaged with

4185
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:26,000
what you're

4186
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:30,800
saying here sasquatch in front of you

4187
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:38,790
no um when he came to me it was more

4188
02:42:44,389 --> 02:42:40,720
interdimensional so

4189
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:44,399
i was in a lucid lucid dream state um

4190
02:42:48,309 --> 02:42:46,560
but i i couldn't see couldn't see them

4191
02:42:50,950 --> 02:42:48,319
because they were behind me

4192
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:50,960
but i felt this arm wrap around my body

4193
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:53,439
and i felt his hand underneath my armpit

4194
02:42:59,110 --> 02:42:56,479
and it was like twice as big as mine and

4195
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:59,120
he he and then i got this huge grunt

4196
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:01,200
like this big

4197
02:43:06,630 --> 02:43:04,319
and then i just slowly slowly woke up

4198
02:43:08,230 --> 02:43:06,640
out of that state just very slowly right

4199
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:08,240
i wasn't scared at all i was just quite

4200
02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:08,880
amazed

4201
02:43:12,790 --> 02:43:12,000
and then after i woke up i still felt

4202
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:12,800
his hand

4203
02:43:16,469 --> 02:43:14,720
underneath my arm i could still feel it

4204
02:43:19,030 --> 02:43:16,479
when i was consciously awake

4205
02:43:19,830 --> 02:43:19,040
i was just like wow and i and then i

4206
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:19,840
documented

4207
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:21,120
the whole thing this is like this is

4208
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:23,520
just amazing so

4209
02:43:27,910 --> 02:43:26,720
obviously the sasquatch were happy with

4210
02:43:31,910 --> 02:43:27,920
me so

4211
02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:31,920
yeah very very bizarre i haven't uh

4212
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:34,800
i haven't had a sasquatch contact i've

4213
02:43:40,309 --> 02:43:35,200
seen

4214
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:40,319
footprints um i haven't had a contact

4215
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:43,760
i had something strange um in my room

4216
02:43:48,309 --> 02:43:46,319
back in 1995. i've talked about it quite

4217
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:48,319
a bit

4218
02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:51,200
that was uh it was physical and that

4219
02:44:01,190 --> 02:43:53,920
lasted about

4220
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:01,200
uh i couldn't figure out

4221
02:44:07,830 --> 02:44:04,720
where this guy went

4222
02:44:11,590 --> 02:44:07,840
that was that was pretty weird because

4223
02:44:14,230 --> 02:44:11,600
he was standing in front of my um uh

4224
02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:14,240
sliding glass doors uh in my bedroom

4225
02:44:19,670 --> 02:44:16,160
that went out to my patio

4226
02:44:21,590 --> 02:44:19,680
so i was thinking that the the door was

4227
02:44:24,309 --> 02:44:21,600
i went over and the door was actually

4228
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:24,319
locked and closed and that kind of

4229
02:44:30,070 --> 02:44:25,840
freaked me out

4230
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:30,080
i i never really got to the bottom of it

4231
02:44:33,269 --> 02:44:31,680
i haven't discussed it a whole lot in

4232
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:33,279
the details i've kept all of that

4233
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:34,240
private

4234
02:44:39,190 --> 02:44:37,359
um uh for a lot of different reasons

4235
02:44:41,590 --> 02:44:39,200
um i like to hear other people's

4236
02:44:42,710 --> 02:44:41,600
experiences and then think about what i

4237
02:44:46,309 --> 02:44:42,720
went through

4238
02:44:48,790 --> 02:44:46,319
and kind of cross check right and

4239
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:48,800
and and see the similarities between

4240
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,359
them and

4241
02:44:53,190 --> 02:44:51,920
and and i feel them all the time and i

4242
02:44:56,469 --> 02:44:53,200
also know when somebody is

4243
02:44:59,030 --> 02:44:56,479
is is pulling my leg too as well where

4244
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:59,040
it's it's not the same and it there's

4245
02:45:02,309 --> 02:44:59,600
something

4246
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:02,319
else that's a little bit different um

4247
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:02,800
but

4248
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:07,439
uh for you when we are talking about

4249
02:45:11,590 --> 02:45:10,720
uh the the physical aspect has there

4250
02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:11,600
been

4251
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:14,479
anything that has involved a craft have

4252
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:15,200
you been

4253
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:18,479
uh taken aboard a craft or has it only

4254
02:45:22,630 --> 02:45:19,359
been

4255
02:45:24,550 --> 02:45:22,640
uh with beings well i know that i've

4256
02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:24,560
been taken on board a craft

4257
02:45:28,550 --> 02:45:27,600
because of the evidence that was left

4258
02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,560
behind

4259
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:30,640
um you know when i wake up in the

4260
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:32,640
morning and then i have like you know

4261
02:45:36,070 --> 02:45:34,640
i'm i'm lying under sand

4262
02:45:37,590 --> 02:45:36,080
you know and i make sure my bed sheets

4263
02:45:38,309 --> 02:45:37,600
are clean every night and then when i

4264
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:38,319
wake up

4265
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:40,080
and sometimes i've found you know sand

4266
02:45:43,750 --> 02:45:41,600
in my bed um

4267
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:43,760
even like strange like it was almost

4268
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:45,760
like black obsidian shards

4269
02:45:49,030 --> 02:45:47,200
so it's like where did this stuff come

4270
02:45:51,349 --> 02:45:49,040
from you know um

4271
02:45:52,630 --> 02:45:51,359
i found some other odd things that one

4272
02:45:54,309 --> 02:45:52,640
thing i looked almost like

4273
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:54,319
it was organic and it looked almost look

4274
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:56,800
like a tooth

4275
02:46:01,030 --> 02:45:59,520
something else that looked like silicate

4276
02:46:04,469 --> 02:46:01,040
i don't know what it was

4277
02:46:07,670 --> 02:46:04,479
just weird things so i you know i

4278
02:46:08,070 --> 02:46:07,680
i i bag it all and date it um you know

4279
02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:08,080
and i

4280
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:11,040
hang on to it it's it's hard to you know

4281
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:12,800
it's crazy but i know they've picked me

4282
02:46:15,990 --> 02:46:13,600
up

4283
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:16,000
um multiple times because you know i'll

4284
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:18,240
wake up with this dirt in my bed

4285
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:22,000
um any memories any memories from being

4286
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:23,520
on the craft

4287
02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:25,920
none nothing no nothing which is really

4288
02:46:29,750 --> 02:46:27,600
frustrating because

4289
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:29,760
um another experiencer friend like who

4290
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,240
had um followed them on twitter

4291
02:46:36,550 --> 02:46:35,279
he too was on the toronto run because we

4292
02:46:39,269 --> 02:46:36,560
were we were all picked up

4293
02:46:41,429 --> 02:46:39,279
and he had memories of us being back at

4294
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:41,439
the sandia mountain complex

4295
02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:44,240
and he said yeah i remember seeing you

4296
02:46:46,870 --> 02:46:46,160
you were behind glass you're in another

4297
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:46,880
room

4298
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:48,960
you were wearing this black shirt with

4299
02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:51,520
this purple dress shirt over top

4300
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:54,479
well here's the thing jimmy i was

4301
02:46:57,990 --> 02:46:55,040
wearing

4302
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:58,000
black my black shirts and a purple dress

4303
02:47:03,429 --> 02:47:00,640
shirt over top that entire week

4304
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:03,439
back in my house how did he know what i

4305
02:47:06,550 --> 02:47:04,880
was wearing

4306
02:47:08,389 --> 02:47:06,560
there's no way he could have known that

4307
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:08,399
i was just like holy [\h__\h]

4308
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:12,080
yeah this this thing that was

4309
02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:15,600
organic that uh uh

4310
02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:18,720
you think that may have been a tooth

4311
02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:23,040
uh what was it i have no idea

4312
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:25,840
do you have the uh ability of taking it

4313
02:47:32,389 --> 02:47:28,240
to somebody to have them check it out

4314
02:47:34,630 --> 02:47:32,399
yes i do i could it is possible

4315
02:47:36,309 --> 02:47:34,640
yeah it's it feels almost like skin but

4316
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:36,319
it's shaped more like a tooth it's

4317
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:37,279
organic

4318
02:47:42,309 --> 02:47:40,080
i have no idea what it is it looks like

4319
02:47:44,870 --> 02:47:42,319
a scab it feels like a scab actually

4320
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:44,880
but i don't know it's weird it's really

4321
02:47:49,030 --> 02:47:45,760
strange

4322
02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:49,040
wow wow that is crazy

4323
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:51,680
that is crazy and i would love to know

4324
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:52,479
if there

4325
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:59,110
i'd love yeah i'd love to as well i

4326
02:48:03,110 --> 02:48:00,720
really would

4327
02:48:04,550 --> 02:48:03,120
huh yeah i showed i showed grant cameron

4328
02:48:05,830 --> 02:48:04,560
you know i took pictures of him and he's

4329
02:48:06,870 --> 02:48:05,840
got pictures of it too i said take a

4330
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:06,880
look at this

4331
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:10,640
any idea what this is i have no idea and

4332
02:48:16,790 --> 02:48:14,080
the uh the the channeling

4333
02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:16,800
aspect of this and before we get out of

4334
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:18,240
here i want to

4335
02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:22,160
swing this back to music are you able to

4336
02:48:26,870 --> 02:48:25,760
uh reach out this this form of contact

4337
02:48:28,389 --> 02:48:26,880
and telepathy

4338
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:28,399
and i know that you said that there's a

4339
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:30,640
book and there's a reference book and

4340
02:48:34,309 --> 02:48:32,800
and and things it did get posted up in

4341
02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:34,319
twitter and people are talking about it

4342
02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:35,359
right now

4343
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:39,279
um are you able to go and access that

4344
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:42,640
for uh writing music and

4345
02:48:47,110 --> 02:48:45,439
and using that as a source uh almost

4346
02:48:50,710 --> 02:48:47,120
like a muse right

4347
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:50,720
are you able to do that and do you do it

4348
02:48:55,349 --> 02:48:53,279
you know i mean in the sense of um like

4349
02:48:56,830 --> 02:48:55,359
telepathy wise of bringing bringing out

4350
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:56,840
music

4351
02:49:00,790 --> 02:48:59,200
yes yeah well i figured that's what's

4352
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:00,800
happening with a lot of these songs that

4353
02:49:04,630 --> 02:49:02,800
i've been writing because um you know

4354
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:04,640
they're they're very inspired

4355
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:07,040
and they come from just the emotion and

4356
02:49:09,190 --> 02:49:08,560
i just pick up the guitar and everything

4357
02:49:11,349 --> 02:49:09,200
i play is

4358
02:49:13,349 --> 02:49:11,359
is a free flow consciousness and then

4359
02:49:15,269 --> 02:49:13,359
all of a sudden this idea song you know

4360
02:49:18,790 --> 02:49:15,279
idea for a song starts coming

4361
02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:18,800
and i press record on my phone and i

4362
02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:19,520
recorded

4363
02:49:24,070 --> 02:49:22,000
and it just happened to be that recently

4364
02:49:26,790 --> 02:49:24,080
all these songs that came out

4365
02:49:27,429 --> 02:49:26,800
were done i didn't have to change a note

4366
02:49:29,990 --> 02:49:27,439
this the

4367
02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:30,000
entire strong song structure flowed

4368
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:31,120
beautifully

4369
02:49:35,510 --> 02:49:33,840
it was absolutely perfect and it's like

4370
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:35,520
wow i just have to learn it

4371
02:49:40,070 --> 02:49:38,319
and that's what i did um i've never done

4372
02:49:43,269 --> 02:49:40,080
that before

4373
02:49:46,630 --> 02:49:43,279
the um the communication when you do

4374
02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:46,640
jump into uh telepathy mode

4375
02:49:52,550 --> 02:49:50,080
is how how is it visual

4376
02:49:53,670 --> 02:49:52,560
is it english that you're hearing inside

4377
02:49:55,510 --> 02:49:53,680
of your head

4378
02:49:57,590 --> 02:49:55,520
how does that communication happen back

4379
02:50:01,110 --> 02:49:57,600
and forth

4380
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:01,120
um well that i've i've only had that

4381
02:50:05,670 --> 02:50:03,200
happen a few times where i've actually

4382
02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:05,680
heard things telepathically and you know

4383
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:08,080
hearing actually you know voices um

4384
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:10,720
one was actually uh my friend uh uh

4385
02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:12,720
marley boone who recently

4386
02:50:16,790 --> 02:50:15,840
um was doing a meditation for her and i

4387
02:50:18,950 --> 02:50:16,800
heard her clear as

4388
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:18,960
we're talking today i heard her say you

4389
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:20,080
know kevin

4390
02:50:24,389 --> 02:50:22,720
i heard her say it to me and and she

4391
02:50:27,349 --> 02:50:24,399
confirmed afterwards that she did

4392
02:50:28,389 --> 02:50:27,359
say hello to me so i've heard her uh but

4393
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:28,399
i also remember

4394
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:31,920
um hearing you know um getting a memory

4395
02:50:39,190 --> 02:50:35,040
back of a visitation from the ponte

4396
02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:39,200
at the ozark ufo conference back in 2017

4397
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:42,080
where they actually visited me back in

4398
02:50:45,269 --> 02:50:42,640
my

4399
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:45,279
hotel room it was tilkum it was radar it

4400
02:50:48,790 --> 02:50:46,319
was grayson

4401
02:50:50,710 --> 02:50:48,800
it was dirty with they threw a tea party

4402
02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:50,720
for me and i

4403
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:52,880
and um i remember what their voices

4404
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:54,000
sounded like

4405
02:50:57,630 --> 02:50:56,160
you know i remember how loud their their

4406
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:57,640
voices were inside my head

4407
02:51:01,830 --> 02:50:59,200
telepathically

4408
02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:01,840
and i remember you know grayson

4409
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:03,439
interrupting tilcum

4410
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:06,319
and he just he he gave it it was it was

4411
02:51:19,750 --> 02:51:06,560
a

4412
02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:19,760
stuff

4413
02:51:22,790 --> 02:51:21,920
and and and i turned around and there's

4414
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:22,800
grayson

4415
02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:25,840
and i i was totally shocked by him and i

4416
02:51:29,440 --> 02:51:26,399
end up

4417
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:29,450
snorting tea all over radar

4418
02:51:33,349 --> 02:51:31,680
[Laughter]

4419
02:51:35,030 --> 02:51:33,359
it was there it was a crazy tea party it

4420
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:35,040
was called the the tea party it's

4421
02:51:37,830 --> 02:51:36,800
actually written about and documented in

4422
02:51:40,469 --> 02:51:37,840
uh sue books

4423
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:40,479
shoes book uh finding et so great story

4424
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:41,279
it's funny as heck

4425
02:51:45,190 --> 02:51:43,680
yeah it's absolutely fascinating to me

4426
02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:45,200
and i haven't

4427
02:51:49,990 --> 02:51:47,840
i haven't been able to do it i think i'm

4428
02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:50,000
going to check out this book

4429
02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:52,880
i was uh looking at the comments here in

4430
02:51:57,269 --> 02:51:54,160
twitter

4431
02:51:59,830 --> 02:51:57,279
which were saying it's actually easy

4432
02:52:01,910 --> 02:51:59,840
that you it's called the telepathy 101

4433
02:52:04,150 --> 02:52:01,920
primer right 101 primer

4434
02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:04,160
yeah officialfirstcontact.com it's on

4435
02:52:08,950 --> 02:52:05,680
there it's available in like

4436
02:52:11,550 --> 02:52:08,960
17 languages okay so i've got it

4437
02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:11,560
i've got it right here yeah

4438
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:13,120
officialfirstcontact.com let me do a

4439
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:14,080
quick read

4440
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:18,080
retweet um and you said

4441
02:52:25,830 --> 02:52:21,520
a couple of months yeah

4442
02:52:29,349 --> 02:52:25,840
practice 30 minutes a day for 100 days

4443
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:29,359
this is the book that kevin is

4444
02:52:35,349 --> 02:52:32,399
talking about right

4445
02:52:37,269 --> 02:52:35,359
now okay so i've got this up in twitter

4446
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:37,279
and i'm glad that i can go

4447
02:52:41,510 --> 02:52:40,560
and look at it and uh and get my hands

4448
02:52:45,110 --> 02:52:41,520
on it

4449
02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:45,120
um the uh back to this on off switch

4450
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:47,680
though and this is the thing

4451
02:52:51,110 --> 02:52:50,560
is is this a situation where once you

4452
02:52:55,030 --> 02:52:51,120
start

4453
02:52:57,510 --> 02:52:55,040
to uh open the door

4454
02:53:00,389 --> 02:52:57,520
is somebody going to be able to

4455
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:02,630
right you're you're going about your day

4456
02:53:07,990 --> 02:53:03,520
and

4457
02:53:11,190 --> 02:53:08,000
out

4458
02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:11,200
it is possible uh once you're opening

4459
02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:13,600
this yourself up telepathically

4460
02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:15,279
um you know you're starting to

4461
02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:17,439
communicate with uh you know

4462
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:20,000
with these other star nations right um i

4463
02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:21,040
remember

4464
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:23,600
my first time that happened after i read

4465
02:53:27,750 --> 02:53:25,600
the telepathy 101 primer

4466
02:53:30,389 --> 02:53:27,760
and i did the protocols at the end and i

4467
02:53:33,910 --> 02:53:30,399
sent out a little telepathic hello

4468
02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:33,920
and um and i went to bed and then i woke

4469
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:35,279
up at three or four o'clock in the

4470
02:53:38,230 --> 02:53:37,040
morning and then i'm trying to get back

4471
02:53:41,269 --> 02:53:38,240
to sleep

4472
02:53:42,710 --> 02:53:41,279
and my eyes are closed and it was almost

4473
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,720
like i was seeing this

4474
02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:44,640
you know you know in the matrix when the

4475
02:53:47,670 --> 02:53:46,080
when those green symbols start coming

4476
02:53:49,190 --> 02:53:47,680
down and they start forming a

4477
02:53:52,230 --> 02:53:49,200
three-dimensional

4478
02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:52,240
you know world absolutely

4479
02:53:55,990 --> 02:53:55,200
okay i was kind of seeing that and all

4480
02:53:59,269 --> 02:53:56,000
of a sudden

4481
02:54:00,070 --> 02:53:59,279
this ponte face i have my eyes closed

4482
02:54:06,150 --> 02:54:00,080
this ponte

4483
02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:06,160
face appears two feet from my face

4484
02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:09,200
i went whoa and i flew backwards out of

4485
02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:10,000
my bed

4486
02:54:13,510 --> 02:54:12,240
landed on the other side of the bench

4487
02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:13,520
and i was like

4488
02:54:19,349 --> 02:54:16,720
what was that where can everybody

4489
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:19,359
yeah i'm gonna check it out i'm gonna

4490
02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:20,880
check it out i'm just worried about the

4491
02:54:27,269 --> 02:54:21,200
on

4492
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:27,279
uh get into something that may be a

4493
02:54:31,190 --> 02:54:29,439
little bit dangerous too as well and

4494
02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:31,200
you never know who's out there right

4495
02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:32,640
tricksters

4496
02:54:37,110 --> 02:54:35,600
uh things with bad intentions because

4497
02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:37,120
there's a little bit of everything in

4498
02:54:41,590 --> 02:54:38,479
the universe

4499
02:54:42,950 --> 02:54:41,600
and i i can only imagine that you need

4500
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:42,960
to

4501
02:54:47,510 --> 02:54:44,880
uh it's like a ouija board right you

4502
02:54:49,510 --> 02:54:47,520
just don't go into it willy-nilly

4503
02:54:50,950 --> 02:54:49,520
and and just think everything is going

4504
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:50,960
to be fine

4505
02:54:54,070 --> 02:54:52,960
that's the part that scares me a little

4506
02:54:56,150 --> 02:54:54,080
bit um

4507
02:54:57,510 --> 02:54:56,160
where can everybody go and check out

4508
02:55:01,349 --> 02:54:57,520
pyramids on mars

4509
02:55:03,349 --> 02:55:01,359
ufo radio oh yeah sure uh let's see on

4510
02:55:06,950 --> 02:55:03,359
the artist first network

4511
02:55:08,550 --> 02:55:06,960
so go to artistfirst.com and you'll see

4512
02:55:09,190 --> 02:55:08,560
uh you'll see you'll see a picture of me

4513
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:09,200
there's his

4514
02:55:12,309 --> 02:55:11,920
pyramids on mars you click on that it'll

4515
02:55:15,349 --> 02:55:12,319
take you

4516
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:15,359
right to my archive page and i've

4517
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:18,479
actually done 50 shows now my last show

4518
02:55:20,230 --> 02:55:19,760
was actually with clifford mahouty

4519
02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:20,240
you're uh

4520
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,760
you're you're a good friend yeah he's

4521
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:23,520
amazing clifford's told some funniest

4522
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:25,439
he's clippers told some funny stories

4523
02:55:29,030 --> 02:55:26,960
about you and him

4524
02:55:30,150 --> 02:55:29,040
and the pranks you guys have done let me

4525
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:30,160
tell you something

4526
02:55:37,030 --> 02:55:33,760
clifford is one of the coolest

4527
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:37,040
people on this entire planet

4528
02:55:40,389 --> 02:55:38,720
and there's a lot of cool people out

4529
02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:40,399
there but he i

4530
02:55:47,670 --> 02:55:43,680
hold him up i have such respect

4531
02:55:50,389 --> 02:55:47,680
for clifford uh very smart very engaging

4532
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:50,399
but i'll say this he is one of the

4533
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:52,560
funniest people on this planet

4534
02:55:58,550 --> 02:55:56,240
that guy's sense of humor um

4535
02:55:59,990 --> 02:55:58,560
he's just an absolutely incredible

4536
02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:00,000
person incredible i've

4537
02:56:05,510 --> 02:56:03,040
hung out with him so much and uh he is

4538
02:56:06,230 --> 02:56:05,520
he's absolutely great what is it like

4539
02:56:09,670 --> 02:56:06,240
for you

4540
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:09,680
to to be a host right it's one thing to

4541
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:10,960
have people ask you

4542
02:56:15,910 --> 02:56:13,120
questions but it's another thing when

4543
02:56:18,150 --> 02:56:15,920
you're on the other side right

4544
02:56:19,990 --> 02:56:18,160
sometimes it's kind of scary because um

4545
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:20,000
you have to keep the show going

4546
02:56:24,230 --> 02:56:23,200
and keep the conversation um you know

4547
02:56:25,349 --> 02:56:24,240
flowing

4548
02:56:27,349 --> 02:56:25,359
most of the time the people i've

4549
02:56:29,030 --> 02:56:27,359
interviewed i know them very well

4550
02:56:30,630 --> 02:56:29,040
so you know i'm already familiar with

4551
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,640
you know we're friends and we already

4552
02:56:35,349 --> 02:56:32,080
know their stories so

4553
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:35,359
that makes it easier um but you know

4554
02:56:38,550 --> 02:56:36,960
it's it's very different when you're a

4555
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,560
host because you're now

4556
02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:41,520
you know leading the show and you know

4557
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:43,040
questions will come up and i'll think of

4558
02:56:45,510 --> 02:56:43,520
things

4559
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:45,520
that to talk about and bring it into the

4560
02:56:49,429 --> 02:56:48,000
show i've been very fortunate that i'm i

4561
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:49,439
do it very naturally and i've been doing

4562
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:50,640
it for a long time now that it's

4563
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:51,439
becoming

4564
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:53,279
it's it's flowing more easier i mean

4565
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:54,720
you're you know you're a total

4566
02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:57,200
professional and you know you've you're

4567
02:57:01,429 --> 02:56:58,319
you've taken it to

4568
02:57:04,790 --> 02:57:01,439
even higher levels honestly uh jimmy

4569
02:57:08,469 --> 02:57:04,800
i've done over 50 ufo like radio shows

4570
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:08,479
i've never had as much fun as i have

4571
02:57:14,950 --> 02:57:11,680
one on this show honestly look i'm

4572
02:57:18,150 --> 02:57:14,960
uh uh 2 000 shows in

4573
02:57:22,550 --> 02:57:18,160
right and

4574
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:22,560
uh it's uh it's it has come to a point

4575
02:57:27,750 --> 02:57:23,680
where

4576
02:57:31,269 --> 02:57:27,760
i have been able to look back at myself

4577
02:57:33,990 --> 02:57:31,279
and see how i have changed

4578
02:57:34,389 --> 02:57:34,000
how much i have learned from the guests

4579
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:34,399
and

4580
02:57:44,389 --> 02:57:41,760
my not only my uh my philosophy

4581
02:57:45,110 --> 02:57:44,399
and my outlook has changed but my

4582
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:45,120
knowledge

4583
02:57:48,469 --> 02:57:46,960
has changed too as well and i've changed

4584
02:57:51,190 --> 02:57:48,479
as a person

4585
02:57:53,110 --> 02:57:51,200
and that's that's one of the things that

4586
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:53,120
i get out of it i don't talk about that

4587
02:57:57,670 --> 02:57:54,160
much

4588
02:58:00,950 --> 02:57:57,680
but uh i i can see that

4589
02:58:04,309 --> 02:58:00,960
and one of the reasons it's just like

4590
02:58:07,670 --> 02:58:04,319
it's not any different i go to school

4591
02:58:08,870 --> 02:58:07,680
every single night so it's like going to

4592
02:58:12,150 --> 02:58:08,880
college now

4593
02:58:14,950 --> 02:58:12,160
for eight years right eight years

4594
02:58:16,150 --> 02:58:14,960
i'm not i'm not on the internet i'm not

4595
02:58:20,710 --> 02:58:16,160
watching tv

4596
02:58:23,030 --> 02:58:20,720
i am talking with somebody one on one

4597
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:23,040
for three hours here and then i go over

4598
02:58:28,790 --> 02:58:25,840
to coast where i do it for four hours

4599
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:28,800
and i'm learning you know and it's just

4600
02:58:32,630 --> 02:58:29,359
like

4601
02:58:34,230 --> 02:58:32,640
going to school it isn't any different

4602
02:58:36,710 --> 02:58:34,240
so just imagine

4603
02:58:39,030 --> 02:58:36,720
uh and you and i can talk about this

4604
02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:39,040
after you've done this for eight years

4605
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:41,279
and and you can turn to me and go jimmy

4606
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:42,800
you're absolutely right

4607
02:58:47,269 --> 02:58:45,600
i have changed you know and that's

4608
02:58:47,910 --> 02:58:47,279
that's that's what you're going to get

4609
02:58:50,710 --> 02:58:47,920
out of it

4610
02:58:52,150 --> 02:58:50,720
it's fun to do i look forward to it

4611
02:58:54,309 --> 02:58:52,160
every single night

4612
02:58:55,750 --> 02:58:54,319
but if i was going to school if i was

4613
02:58:57,190 --> 02:58:55,760
going to college

4614
02:58:59,030 --> 02:58:57,200
every single night i'd be looking

4615
02:59:00,550 --> 02:58:59,040
forward to that in the with the same

4616
02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:00,560
passion that i do

4617
02:59:05,510 --> 02:59:04,000
with doing this show yeah

4618
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:05,520
yeah yeah because you learn so much all

4619
02:59:08,469 --> 02:59:07,040
the time and you know

4620
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,479
and there's so much more in you know

4621
02:59:11,750 --> 02:59:10,560
when you and you learn more fundamental

4622
02:59:12,950 --> 02:59:11,760
truths because somebody will be talking

4623
02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:12,960
about the same thing

4624
02:59:16,550 --> 02:59:14,720
um that you've already heard before so

4625
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:16,560
you you you know he's talking about you

4626
02:59:18,710 --> 02:59:17,600
know what he's talking about

4627
02:59:21,190 --> 02:59:18,720
but you hear it from a different

4628
02:59:22,630 --> 02:59:21,200
perspective so it's it's it's like it

4629
02:59:25,190 --> 02:59:22,640
weaves more and more

4630
02:59:26,309 --> 02:59:25,200
depth to understanding this complex

4631
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:26,319
world that uh

4632
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:28,399
you know that word that we're in yeah

4633
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:29,520
like uh tomorrow

4634
02:59:34,410 --> 02:59:32,800
i'm gonna be over on pyramids on mars

4635
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:34,420
guitar lessons.com

4636
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:36,960
[Laughter]

4637
02:59:40,389 --> 02:59:39,200
kevin thank you so much man what a great

4638
02:59:42,230 --> 02:59:40,399
conversation

4639
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:42,240
and i truly look forward to the next

4640
02:59:45,830 --> 02:59:43,840
time that you're on with us

4641
02:59:47,110 --> 02:59:45,840
and and i would love to do your show if

4642
02:59:51,349 --> 02:59:47,120
you ever would uh

4643
02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:51,359
like to uh invite me on i would love uh

4644
02:59:55,990 --> 02:59:53,680
turn this around and have you hit me

4645
02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:56,000
with with all the hard questions that

4646
02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:56,880
would be awesome

4647
03:00:00,309 --> 02:59:59,200
thank you so much kevin enjoy the rest

4648
03:00:03,349 --> 03:00:00,319
of your night my friend

4649
03:00:05,429 --> 03:00:03,359
great night thank you it was

4650
03:00:06,389 --> 03:00:05,439
perfect thank you thank you so much

4651
03:00:10,150 --> 03:00:06,399
kevin estrella

4652
03:00:12,870 --> 03:00:10,160
now over on jimmychurchradio.com

4653
03:00:15,910 --> 03:00:12,880
it's all simple pyramids on mars.com

4654
03:00:19,190 --> 03:00:15,920
pyramids on mars guitar lessons

4655
03:00:20,309 --> 03:00:19,200
and of course kevin's radio show over on

4656
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:20,319
artist first

4657
03:00:23,590 --> 03:00:22,399
links are right there go and check it

4658
03:00:25,590 --> 03:00:23,600
all out

4659
03:00:27,590 --> 03:00:25,600
fade to black's executive producers rita

4660
03:00:29,030 --> 03:00:27,600
kamarian shows produced by hilton j palm

4661
03:00:31,190 --> 03:00:29,040
renee dennis and kevin

4662
03:00:32,309 --> 03:00:31,200
announcers are steve harter gene vettel

4663
03:00:34,469 --> 03:00:32,319
mark d kovar

4664
03:00:36,830 --> 03:00:34,479
webmaster is drew the geek music doug

4665
03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:36,840
aldridge intro spaceboy

4666
03:00:40,150 --> 03:00:38,160
spaceboymusic.com

4667
03:00:41,830 --> 03:00:40,160
fade to black is produced by kjcr for

4668
03:00:43,510 --> 03:00:41,840
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4669
03:00:45,349 --> 03:00:43,520
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4670
03:00:47,510 --> 03:00:45,359
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4671
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:47,520
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4672
03:00:50,710 --> 03:00:48,720
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4673
03:00:52,309 --> 03:00:50,720
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4674
03:00:53,349 --> 03:00:52,319
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4675
03:00:55,030 --> 03:00:53,359
the known universe

4676
03:00:56,870 --> 03:00:55,040
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4677
03:00:58,469 --> 03:00:56,880
black or the game changer network

4678
03:01:01,190 --> 03:00:58,479
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4679
03:01:03,510 --> 03:01:01,200
night right here fader night open lines

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all night long until tomorrow night i

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want everybody to be safe

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go back lee tappy